Brief Bible Blunders -- Episode #2

The second in a series of quick looks at biblical oddities.

Link to the playlist for the series:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6F8036F680C1DBEB

Este video con anotaciones en español:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk5YM5gsB5k

Category:

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• Bible
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• inerrancy
• divine
• inspiration
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• revelation
• Exodus
• Moses
• Pharaoh
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• Egypt
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• Jehovah
• Hebrews
• slavery
• plagues
• river
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• frogs
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• Passover
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• pestilence
• livestock
• hail
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• beast
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• first-born
• Aaron
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• Tanakh
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• exegesis
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• apologetics
• yt:stretch=16:9

[Boxerr54]

Nonsense. Read the story! The first death of livestock was not to kill all livestock in Egypt, but all livestock OWNED BY EGYPTIANS IN PHAROAH'S HOUSE.

We don't see this in English because the singular and plural possessive forms of English both being "your". But, the "your" here is singular. Only Pharoah's livestock die in the first killing. How do we know? Well they checked every one and none of the Israelite's livestock were dead.

[ProfMTH]

@Boxerr54 "The first death of livestock was not to kill all livestock in Egypt, but all livestock OWNED BY EGYPTIANS IN PHAROAH'S HOUSE."

That's not what the story says. Most importantly, as noted in the video, as a result of the first livestock plage "ALL the livestock of the Egyptians died" (Exodus 9:6, emphasis added). Not some. Not just "Pharoah's livestock." ALL the livestock of the Egyptians died. That's what your Bible says. Why don't you believe it?

[ProfMTH]

(con't) @Boxerr54 " none of the Israelite's livestock were dead"

Right. The plagues weren't aimed at the Israelites. They targeted the Egyptians. And in the first livestock plague, all of the Egyptians' livestock were killed (Exodus 9:6). There were no Egyptian livestock left to die in the second and third plagues that impacted livestock, yet the story goes on to have the already dead Egyptian livestock dying yet again in those subsequent plagues.

[TheVastEmptiness]

Oh!come on already!!ROFL!!!!

[ProfMTH]

@TheVastEmptiness ;-)

[j919or]

The plagues took place over a span of 6 months. Livestock were easily obtainable and replenishable. Herders traders nomads abounded. Egypt was so rich and powerful. They fought back against the plagues and stubbornly resisted.

[ProfMTH]

@j919or "The plagues took place over a span of 6 months."

Basis for your assertion?

"Livestock were easily obtainable and replenishable."

Really? Do tell. What is the basis for this assertion?

[infernalone666]

...........and this was all part of a predetermined divine plan.

i can just SEE this god compiling this little playact before hand - and it's kinda pathetic that he decided on making the egyptians being 'resistant' just so he can slaughter their cattle and stuff.

and why does an all-knowing god need hebrews to slather doors with sheep blood so he can know who's on his side? that's why I think the death plagues were assassins, not a god. THEY'D need to know who's houses and barns to enter

[Axiodox]

yeah, when i was a small christian child that whole hardening of pharaohs heart didn't really make sense, but i suspect it was glazed over with some simplistic answer by my church and I just rolled with the idea that it was all good cause he knew what he was doing.

But now looking at it from an objective perspective, I can clearly see that Yahweh was a complete asshole.

[ChipArgyle]

I can hear it now...Christian apologist says: "They were zombie livestock, just like zombie Jesus.  Come on, atheists, is that all you've got?"

[j919or]

@d00m0racl3 ""(no animals to carry stuff) ""

First ur assertions are loaded with assumptions. You assume that the plague killed ALL the horses etc. Then you assume that the Egyptians didnt jsut confiscate the Israelites horses. Truly you are a lover of darkness seeking lies to hide from the truth.

At the judgement all will be revealed. I implore you confess your evil to God and receive the gift of eternal life thru forgiveness and cleansing

[j919or]

@d00m0racl3 ""by "obtain" you mean wage war ""

Egypt was the most powerful empire of the time. Do you still wanna persist that they could not handle the problem?

[j919or]

@d00m0racl3 ""not HISTORY!""

Do u care to support ur assertion? Do you know anything about textual criticism and how to know what is history? ....I didnt think so.

[robdmccoy]

@d00m0racl3

Again, I really think you should take some time not only to read the bible, but to actually understand the history behind it, because your facts aren't correct. The bible was compiled over a span of roughly 2000 years. There are writings which predate both Socrates and Plato. Second, did you ever consider that maybe existence is greater than you can imagine? Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe there are things bigger than our human experience? Consider that for a minute.

[d00m0racl3]

@j919or the bible is simply his story not HISTORY!

[d00m0racl3]

@j919or ìf by "obtain" you mean wage war upon them to "aquisition" their flocks, do "pray tell" just how they did it being that egyptian army's strength in the batlefield were their CHARIOTEERS (you know them lil carts pulled by HORSES). it would also be nice to know how the army doing the "aquisitioning" moved about, (no animals to carry stuff) what they may have eaten, (no meat proteins for strength/stamina) you know the essential things for a moving army to have in order to be of service.