Voici le bunkaï du kata empi shotokan. Le bunkaï est l'explication appliquée d'un kata qui est un "combat dans l'espace". Ici, les parties executées seules sont faite à la suite dans le kata normal, les enchainement de techniques montrées sont l'explication de chaque partie executée seule. Bon visionnage à tous!
@NitenRyu559 Was this comment suppose to be directed at me?
Bunkai means "analysis" or "breakdown" of a Kata. And Bunkai Oyo relates to a breakdown or analysis of a kata that is different then the standard(that which was set by the association in which you practice). I'm not too sure how this relates to my comment posted 9 months ago. The current STANDARD of bunkai in the largest Karate association is not a functional curriculum for teaching self-defense.
Gwisss 7 months ago
@Gwisss The correct frase is Oyo, not Bunkai.-- people should consider taking the time to learn about the Japanese language before they start using the wrong phrase. before you know it the whole world will used the wrong phrase.
NitenRyu559 7 months ago
GOOD SONG !! ORRIBLE BUNKAI
tazZANSHIN 1 year ago
ORRIBLE!!
tazZANSHIN 1 year ago
@Bassai Modern Shotokan Karate-do falls into a grey area of combat, where they study a few techniques occasionally that are generic and common like wrist locks and throws. This is not "Self-defense" but a false sense of self-defense. I learned less functional combat in 8 years of studying Shotokan Karate-do then the amount of functional combat techniques I learned from studying one flow drill(in particular: ne-waza) from Koryu Uchinadi Kenpo Jutsu.
Gwisss 1 year ago
Interesting applications and i happen to like the music too...
StuartBurns69 1 year ago
Good bunkai a great kata too.
slippyb1 1 year ago
@maofas At least you are one of the few who understand the right way of training on how to grapple effectively. Unlike these people above who are just applying token grappling moves on "rag doll" opponents. If they only knew how to train properly, they wouldn't be so keen on throwing random grappling techniques in a kata. As you said, an appropriate grappling move must be used in the appropriate time, as the practice of grappling itself requires a partner who is resisting the technique.
Bassai 1 year ago
@Bassai Pretty much, because learning a random throw or joint lock is like learning one random punch. It's all the inbetween (the transitions, the sense keeping your weight down, kazushi, how one technique sets up another, etc. etc.) that matters, whether you're doing standup or groundwork.
maofas 1 year ago
awesome guys, lovely to watch, very strong!
veggieshredder 1 year ago
@BrianNeltner Extra finishing moves are just fine. I look at it as pushing the pause button on the kata while you extemporaneously beat him to a bloody pulp.
ptboyindenver 1 year ago
Fuck the music!
Khelarald 2 years ago
Really nice bunkai!
johnm543 2 years ago
Why do people insist on putting these things to distracting and inappropriate music?
recurse 2 years ago
Bassai. I never said that they were practicing pure Jujitsu. All I said was that both Chinese and Jap. grappling arts had an influence on karate, which did not even exist as "karate" until the 1920s. Iain said so as well, as did the masters. And today, these influences are even stronger and will continue to be just as karate influences other m. arts as well. With this I leave the discussion and wish you well in your studies, etc. You are on a good path. Oss!
Shotokita 2 years ago
@Shotokita A great example is Lyoto Machida. He wouldn't have done so well in his MMA career if he did not train in BJJ, Judo and Sumo separately from his Shotokan practice. He also had the fortune of having time to practice the arts at the same time, as many of only have ten to fifteen hours of practice a week.
Bassai 2 years ago
@Shotokita Example: If a black belt in Shotokan, after studying the grappling moves in Heian Shodan all the way to the the big five: Kanku-Dai, Bassai Dai, Empi, Jion and Jitte, most probably lose in a grappling match against a shodan in judo or BJJ, simply because the time spent by grapplers on these basic techniques is about 80% of their training. I do suggest that the Shotokan practitioner spend a year or two of simply grappling, so as to understand and master the art.
Bassai 2 years ago
@Shotokita That's why I refuted your statement in the beginning. Today, their are many practitioners trying to do research into grappling systems (me included, in BJJ) and seeing if they can fit that into their kata's ura bunkai, which I have no problem with whatsoever. As long as the researcher knows how to grapple effectively. The sad thing is that many try to incorporate grappling moves they read in books or see in videos, not knowing how to practice it and lacking grappling basics.
Bassai 2 years ago
@Shotokita It was never written as, Itosu or Azato learned Karate-Do from so and so, and jujitsu from so and so. Okinawan Karate-Do was and is a complete fighting system with its own grappling techniques (See Pat McCarthy's, a well known Karate-Do historian, work and research into Koryu Uchnadi or Okinawan fighting systems). Funakoshi himself distinguishes Karate-Do as a separate art from Japanese Jujitsu.
Bassai 2 years ago
@Shotokita None of the original Okinawan masters mention that they learned "jujitsu" as you understand it (Japanese), from any known jujitsu teacher. What they do mention is where they had learned their Karate-Do, which in itself has inclusive grappling techniques. Simply saying, Itosu and Azato were both known as Karate-Do masters, not jujitsu masters, because Karate-Do was the Okinawan "jujitsu" or method of unarmed combat.
Bassai 2 years ago
@Shotokita Yes, I understand your point. As I had said, Karate did not come from exclusively Jujitsu, but a combination of martial arts (as we both now agree). But what I'd like to also point out hat Karate-Do, as practiced by the Okinawan samurai art, was considered the "jujitsu" of said masters. You must understand that to the Japanese and Chinese (Asian cultures, really) that it is important to pay homage to their teachers (martial art or not) for respect and authenticity of their school.
Bassai 2 years ago
Bassai, FYI, spoke to my mate Iain Abernethy who said, "Some of the styles of (early) karate were heavily influenced by Jap. Jujitsu, others were not, and were mostly Chinese influenced. However, grappling is present throughout kata, mostly simple s.d. tech. though is still somewhat controversial." I trust his scholarship like no other. Kata bunkai has been his quest for many, many years. Read his, "Bunkai-Jutsu." It is ground breaking. Oss! Good luck...
Shotokita 2 years ago
Bassai. The styles you mention are what I'm talking about. They did not exist alone prior to the 1920s. They were and are influenced by the samurai, as you just stated (Japanized,) which is why the masters who founded them claim direct warrior lineage to the samurai - and proudly so. And the karate of Itosu, Azato etc. was also influenced by samurai as well as the Chinese. You should read my good friend Iain Abernethy's work. I think you would enjoy it and see the connection to kata. Oss!
Shotokita 2 years ago
@Shotokita I have no problem with the Japanese influence on Okinawans whatsoever. Shotokan, Goju-kai, Wado-Ryu, Shindo Jinen-Ryu are among the styles which Okinawans call "Japanized" versions of Karate. I do not refute the influence of Jujitsu on Karate today. But I was only contending your statement that Karate came from Jujitsu. I tried to find the connection in Karate history, but could not find sufficient evidence. In history, Japanese Jujitsu's major influence happened post 1920's. Oss
Bassai 2 years ago
Bassai. You seem to have a real problem with the Okinawans being influenced by Japanese. Are New Mexicans not influenced by Mexico? Kanazawa, Funakoshi, Miyagi, Otsuka, etc. all mention the samurai and their influence. Jujitsu is a samurai system influenced by the Chinese. Karate is a mix of Chinese and indig., infl. by samurai for over 200 years. They are different arts, but the blending is there, and in kata. It's only natural. However, you are entitled to believe what you want. Oss!
Shotokita 2 years ago