The Bible is not an axiom!

In this video, I address the proposition that the Bible is an axiom, demonstrating that it does not meet the necessary criteria.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• axiom
• Gordon
• Clark
• bible
• Calvinism
• philosophy
• presuppositional
• apologetics

[AuxentiusZ]

This will be my lost post on your page, I appreciate you sharing your views with me and the reasonable tone the conversation has taken. I won't take up any more space on your page, except to say farewell and thanks for the spirited exchange.

[crazypills2]

@AuxentiusZ "This will be my lost post on your page, I appreciate you sharing your views with me and the reasonable tone the conversation has taken"

Thanks for stopping by. I am, however, a little disappointed that you neglected to answer my question: how can you be certain that knowledge requires certainty. I'm not saying a good answer doesn't exist, but I've yet to hear one.

Take care,

Steve

[0gods]

@crazypills2

I am so happy to have stumbled on to your channel. Excellent analysis of the "the bible is an axiom" argument.

Peace.

[Alejandro1Mojica]

i have no idea why im watching this lolz this shit is way over my head O.o lol :P! one day i will understand it!!

[crazypills2]

@AuxentiusZ " I think it's odd that you'd use reason against the bible when you cannot be certain it (reason) will yield truthful results."

I 'know' that self-contradiction is a death blow to an axiom. And, these 'contradictions' in scripture have not been 'aptly' addressed. They are not the most reasonable explanation. If you're interested in arguing the subject, view my video "Scripture Interprets Scripture?" I'd be happy to hear your harmonization and why it's the most reasonable to accept.

[AuxentiusZ]

@crazypills2 You're reasonable, I'm sure I don't have to share with you the definition of "knowledge" but it is not, assuredly, "our best guess." It is something concretely knowable, and your worldview fundamentally undermines anything of the sort. That was my reason for calling you out on it, you seemed to be unaware that making absolute statements as though they were fact (i.e. the title of this video) are innately contradictory since you eschew certainty & knowledge in the absolute sense.

[AuxentiusZ]

@crazypills2 I'm sure you know that these "contradictions" have been aptly explained, since you appear to be interested in the subject. I think it's odd that you'd use reason against the bible when you cannot be certain it (reason) will yield truthful results.

[crazypills2]

@AuxentiusZ "How come everyone who has ever measured has come to the same conclusion?"

So you agree that the speed of light in a vacuum is objective?

"If everything is uncertain, as you suggest, then you should not make any certain statements like 'the bible is not an axiom!' "

If something is self-contradictory, then it is not an axiom. Don't you agree?

Now back to the question you are unwilling to answer: how can you be certain that knowledge requires certainty?

[crazypills2]

@AuxentiusZ " If the axiom is false?"

Which axiom? The bible is the inspired word of God? Well, I can disprove this quite easily. Simply watch one of my videos on the contradictions in scripture. If something is internally inconsistent, it is false. I'm sure you know that.

[AuxentiusZ]

@crazypills2 How come everyone who has ever measured has come to the same conclusion? Not terribly surprising, since the tools we design to measure it were based on the same hardware, the human brain. The brain is ultimately responsible for our picture of the universe, and in the atheistic/agnostic worldview, it's the product of a long chain of mostly accidental events. If everything is uncertain, as you suggest, then you should not make any certain statements like "the bible is not an axiom!"