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Living Islam - Discussing the Hamza Tzortzis vs Dan Barker debate

During this session of Living Islam inshaAllah we will:

Get audience feedback on the debate
Discuss critical questions that arose such as the permissibility of having speakers who are offensive toward our deen
Review clips from the debate and discuss how we might refute Mr. Barker's outrageous claims further
Explore more dawah strategies and how they can be implemented.

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  • @PurpleHaze20111 It sounds a lot like your saying "Stopping a car is only application of the brakes and realease of the accelerator not suspension of movement" - well actually its all 3

    If u are going to define ultimate justice as including forgiveness then we are talking about 2 different things here and i would add you are contradicting yourself with your definition.

    Also, "compensate the victim to fulfill the demands of justice" agreed but this doesnt refute anything i said regard mercy

  • @shandcunt Mercy is forgiveness of sin or suspension of punishment not suspension of justice . To be just one does not have to punish someone one can always compensate the victim to fulfill the demands of justice.

  • This is bullshit, the very few answer to the very first question (Conflict between justice and mercy), to state that there is no obvious difference between ultimate justice and some/any mercy is in the definition. Mercy is the suspension of justice, partly or wholely. Thats not my definition, that is the definition of the words. lies, damn lies and dogma

  • Thank you for putting this video up; what is the name of the main speaker?

  • Please note that @HamzaAndreasTzortzis is a FAKE account and is not the real Hamza Tzortzis @mumfirst17

  • This Brother talk with Hikma (wisdom).

  • @HamzaAndreasTzortzis

    "bigger fish to fry" - the only reason you ran away was because the other individual is not proving your wrong, whereas I am, hence the lies, evasion, censoring and the refusal to accept you baseless facts - Houri, bangladesh genocide, Muslim scientists, etc etc

  • @HamzaAndreasTzortzis

    And who was the one who initially changed the subject, its all there in black and white old man - you asked for pioneers, you had to change your stance.. Seriously watch leader of BNP in Question time - you slubd exactly like him upon being proved wrong. Man up.. Sticking to my principles - never let an uneducatibg bigot get away with stupidity, because then he'll continue in that manner

  • @HamzaAndreasTzortzis

    lies and stupidity are tiring eg "kids from different fathers" and CLAIM ABOUT BANGALDESH GENOCIDE; I proved you wrong yet u evade. Look back on your original query, you asked for pioneers when I gave them you wormed your way out it. Fine, can't name any off top of my head - but I have revealed all your lies, Mr Nick Griffin. "attention", I'm waiting for the old man to stop lying and pretending his facts are genuine; proved them all wrong. Put those balls to use old man

  • @HamzaAndreasTzortzis

    Another pitfall, you believe all muslims believe in the Salafi interpretation of Islam - you should be the face of Edl with all this baseless "facts". Finally "dim witted" - you are unemployed while I study. You make no contribution to society, I make a positive one. I reached far higher in education with better grades whereas I was pregnant. I look forward to your response; they are so very simple and amusing.. Like watching an episode of Chucklevision

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