Dry salt beds and the global flood

There are many kind of things that are not discussed by YEC's when they defend flood-geology.

Can a YEC give an explanation for this phenomenon?


References:
[1] Anonymous, Truth and Science ministries in search of the truth
Link: http://www.truthandscience.net/theageoftheearth.htm (under point J.)
[2] Austin, S. A. and D. R. Humphreys, 1990. The sea's missing salt: A dilemma for evolutionists. Proceedings of the Second International Conference on Creationism, Pittsburgh, 2: 17-33.
Link: http://tccsa.tc/articles/ocean_sodium.html
[3] Faith alive Christian resources, 2007. The ocean salt argument for a young earth.
Link: http://www.faithaliveresources.org/origins/downloads/Origins_chap05_art12_sal...
On the fourth page there are links to papers of Dr. Morton on this subject with detailed refutation.
[4] Hess, H.H. et al, 1957. The disposal of radioactive waste on land. National academy of science national research council, Washington D.C, p: 120.
Link: http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=NI000379&page=120
[5] Hess, H.H. et al, 1957. The disposal of radioactive waste on land. National academy of science national research council, Washington D.C, p: 122.
Link: http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10294&page=122
[6] Ulrich, J. 1961. The Palynologic Age of Diapiric and Bedded Salt, Department of Conservation, Louisiana Geological Survey, Geological Bulletin 38, October, 1961, p. 1
[7] Barnett, J.M., 1938. Sedimentation Rate of Salt Determined by Micrometeorite Analysis, M. S. Thesis, Western Michigan University, 1938, p. i.
[8] Mutch, T.A., 1966. Abundances of Magnetic Spherules in Silurian and Permian Salt Samples, Earth and Planetary Science Letters, 1-1966 p. 325
[9] Hall, C.T., 1998. Staying Alive, High in California's White Mountains grows the oldest living creature ever found. Chronicle Science Writer, august 23th.
Link: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1998/08/23/...
[10] Sweden finds worlds oldest tree, BBC NEWS, April 17th 2008.
Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7353357.stm


Further readings:

Geology:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology
The disposal of radioactive waste on land paper:
http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10294&page=R1
Time in the geological column (including salt beds from 4 periods):
http://www.asa3.org/archive/evolution/199603/0147.html
Devastating papers against flood-geology:
http://home.entouch.net/dmd/
http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanavera...
http://talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-f...


cheers,
Terrence

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[GronTheMighty]

pretty good video ; though as another commented as well, a little bit of sound would be very lovely - either some cheesey music or just yourself reading aloud (also would help catch the blind audience? ^^)

[Terrencje]

Thank you and you're right, this video was one of my first and I hardly had the skills to make a video like this. In the last videos I used a bit of music, but the next video (a short one for testing) will have my voice in it and will be wide-screen. :)

[magick205]

One thing I've noticed is the great lack of creationist commentary on your videos. I think this is due to the fact that they come here, see all these references, hear your clear discussion and realize they've really got no chance. I'm going to have to start posting links to some of your work in Nephy's comments. Stir the pot a little more!

[Terrencje]

Haha maybe he will respond :)

I tied debating these topics to me once but he just talked around it. I also send my videos as responses to many creationist but they are either ignoring, can't explain it in their model or just don't understand.

[LithodidMan]

Great video, unfortunately the points are beyond most creationists.

[Terrencje]

At least some people will find it worth the watch :)

thanx for the nice comment.

[InternetDarkLord]

Another question:  Why are bryozoan and coral reefs stratified in the fossil record?

[NorthForkFisherman]

@Terrencje There's also a paper out from the Journal of Sedimentation that might help you explain your points a bit better: "Sedimentology of Ancient Saline Pans: An Example from the Permian Opeche Shale, Williston Basin, North Dakota, USA" by Benison and Goldstein. Got some good figures that might help visualize the issue.

[NorthForkFisherman]

@Biblesmackministries Sorry for the late response. Been sometime since I've been to this channel. Since no one responded, I'll hook you up. Actually, the type of salt is key, because it comes down to one thing: heat. The amount of salt found requires a specific amount of heat input to evaporate that much seawater. To introduce that much heat energy into the system in the space of the given timeframe (1 year for the Noachian Flood) would destroy ALL LIFE. Just some math, chemistry, and physics.

[NorthForkFisherman]

Man, the time goes by and I keep noticing one thing.....how creationists avoid these subjects, and when those that do stick their heads in here get called on their nonsense they don't come back or try to refute anything. Nothing like real, hard science to bitchslap mythology.

[NorthForkFisherman]

@Biblesmackministries the issue here is one of heat. The deposits covered are specifically evaporite deposits as evidenced by the presence of pollen and other contamination (such as plant and other animal material). The amount of heat for the evaporation of water is a known quanity from chemistry. Simply put, the amount of salt that exists simply outweighs the amount of time possible per the "noachian flood". Examine the data for the Opeche Shale and see what I mean.

[Biblesmackministries]

While I am not gong to claim to be an expert, and it has been a while since I updated myself on creation science.

I think you are leaving out a few details.

a. Creation science holds to an ice age following the flood, how does that interact?

b. does your findings really fall in line with the evolutionary view of 6 ice ages?

The ocean is always depositing salt why is this such a contradiction especially in light of the earths shifting tectonic plates.

In Christ,

Matt

[gregrutz]

All of geology proves creationism wrong and the earth is millions of years old.

But rocks and fossils are invisible to YECs.

[NorthForkFisherman]

@NorthForkFisherman Damn: Goldmine! Really need a spellcheck.

[NorthForkFisherman]

Excellent, excellent, excellent! I also love to note how pollen shows that grasses are relatively recent players on the scene as far as plants go. And that morton website! A GLODMINE!