Pt 5 Unquestionably Powerful Archaeology for the Book of Mormon
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Why didn't Joseph Smith know about the Khazars (converts) and why didn't he know that Western European nations are self-identified as Israelites? There are artifacts in the UK that suggest the British Isles were occupied by Israelites. Two that come to mind are the Stone of Scone and the Scottish Declaration of Independence. Also, tales of Tea Tephi and Joseph of Aramathea are relevant.
What about the Quran? Mohammad's claims are just as verifiable as Smith's, and even moreso in most cases.
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I think the word 'Ziff' pertains to a metal or a shape that Joseph Smith wasn't acquainted with. A young man with only a 3rd grade education would not know all the metals discovered. One thing is for sure, 'Ziff' isn't a word corresponding to one of the 7 metals of Antiquity. Joseph would have known what those were. They are mentioned in the Bible.
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Ziff is an established biblical name that JS used in Mosiah 11:3,8 in a list of 'precious things'
This list included iron and brass? HOOT!
And you call this "Unquestionably Powerful Archaeology"
Didn't you mean QUESTIONABLE?
2 years ago 2
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wonderful wonderful work!!! thanks Kerry
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Correct me if i'm wrong Prof, but here's how I interpret your logic
LDS scholars have found an archaic semitic word 'zw' meaning 'splendor/brightness'
They claim 'zw' can be transliterated as 'zif'
Some metal items could be considered objects of great beauty which attract admiration(splendor)
Items made of some types of metal could be described as 'bright'
You conclude that 'ziff' is a metal, or as Tvedvtnes claims "perhaps an alloy or a naturally occurring metal such as electrum"
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maybe you should go back and read our conversation, and this time focus on comprehension. Then ask yourself why you have to bait and switch....
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That's AFTER translation. Prior to translation they are different names with different spellings.
*Iasous* is the equivalent of Hebrew *Yehoshua*, but Joshua in Hebrew is spelled yod-hey-waw-shin-waw-ayin. In contrast, Jesus' name is spelled ישו.
If you don't know the difference between these two words then you've already lost the game.
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What are you talking about? What "bait and switch"? Make sense or shut up.
2 years ago 3
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The name Ziff (Ziph; Zif; siph) appears over half a dozen tomes in the Bible!
Another word to cross off your "unquestionably powerful" list.
truthferrret 2 years ago 5
Not at all. It IS a genuine word dealing with metal as the BofM states. Show me in the Bible where "Ziff" is described as a metal in the ENGLISH which is what Smith would have had (presumably)
TheBackyardProfessor 2 years ago 3