Toe to Toe with Dave Weckl

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Music

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• Fusion
• Jazz
• Dave
• Weckl
• Tony
• Royster
• Jr

[STIF0RP]

what a beast. why isnt he famous?

[drummerplusone]

He's well known; Kiko Freitas was born in Porto Alegre in August 16, 1969. At the age of eight years, he started to study acoustic guitar and, When he was 12, electric bass playing in a band among his family.When the band's drummer missed some rehearsals Kiko started filling in and by intuition was playing the drums. That's when his drum passion started. He started playing as a professional in 1987, after studying with Argos Montenegro and at the Orquestra Sinfônica de Porto Alegre school.

[STIF0RP]

gee thanks for the biography

[drummerplusone]

You're welcome!

[disavow]

anyone know the name of the drummer?

[drummerplusone]

Kiko Freitas

[minkusink6]

ha man, ya'll should have called me, i could have sounded like a crowd for you :)

[koakid58]

its a shame more people dont watch this. Its great!

[kevanmate]

Steve Jordan is one of my favourites. When I saw Eric Clapton, he really made some magic there. Even though he plays very few notes, I barely ever see such passion in drumming. Darren King is a fine nutter (which is always a great thing), really awesome stuff. I love how he tapes his headphones to his head because he jumps around so much. Great stuff!

[delaynestallman]

Darren King's amazing, particularly considering he doesn't really claim to know what he's doing. That's some serious drumming, for anyone. I'm usually pretty amazed by anyone with Metheny, so Bill Stewart, Antonio Sanchez, Jeff Ballard are all outstanding. The total opposite end of the spectrum as far as "# of notes played per song" would include Larry Mullen Jr., and Steve Jordan on John Mayer's records. Anyone with Steely Dan is always total perfection too.

[kevanmate]

Right on, man. My belief is that it's how you play the notes, not so much the notes themselves. It saddens me to see drummers who don't realize the value of heart and soul in their playing. It's something I really want to see more and possibly even contribute to. I try my best to apply my whole soul, body and mind to playing when I play. Whatever instrument I'm playing, whether it be the drums, piano, guitar or whatever random musical thing I find. Check out Darren King from Mute Math.

[delaynestallman]

Agreed. If I could play like Weckl, and had put in that type of work to get there, I'm sure I'd do it all the time. Musicianship-wise, he's one of the greats. But, that doesn't mean anyone has to enjoy it. Sometimes there's nothing like a good backbeat drummer, which many "busy" drummers don't do very well. Glenn Kotche has quickly become of my favorites. My listening habits are pretty bipolar, everything from Tool to The Cranberries on a daily basis. That's what makes music great!

[kevanmate]

I'm not trying to disrespect and maybe I could said my first comment better. My problem with a lot of drummers is that they are far too focused on the technical aspects of drumming. It's not what music is about. I don't believe technical ability is what makes a drummer. I'm not putting shit on Weckl, I'm really not. In fact I have much respect for how Weckl can play that stuff. I've studied a lot of Weckl stuff, I admire it. I just would never want to be that kind of drummer.

[delaynestallman]

Also, I'm not sure I understand your comment about "what you don't play". This guy plays a trillion notes, so he's not exactly leaving a lot of space. But, they're both great. Let's leave it at that. Weckl was clearly in the right place at the right time, with the skills to back it up, and some big name people recommending him for gigs. I get as much from a U2 or Radiohead groove. Drums are great, for many different reasons.

[delaynestallman]

Sure, that's totally fine. I just don't agree that the guitarist or bassist are anywhere close to "baggage" or that this guy "s**ts on Weckl". Weckl spent decades achieving his technical abilities, only to be accused of sounding machine-like. If that's machine-like, then I'd gladly sound machine-like. Many drummers accuse him of that simply because they can't play as well. There's a reason he gets the gigs he gets, and plays with the musicians who hire him.

[kevanmate]

While Weckl has some great technical ability and his grooves are great no doubt about it and he has some great technical ability, any drummer who has attempted playing some of Weckl's grooves would appreciate that. I do respect Weckl, it's just I find his expression very sterile and un-human. For me I believe drumming is not about what you play, but what you don't play. That's just me. Kiko Freitas sounds like it's being played by a human, not a machine. Whereas I just don't feel it with Weckl.