Michael Hayden: "probable cause" is not in the 4th Amendment

In this disturbing exchange we see former head of the NSA, General Michael Hayden, argue with reporter Jonathan Landay that the words "probable cause" are not found in the Fourth Amendment. I don't want to spoil the suprise for you, but "probable cause" is the measure for issuing a warrant in the Fourth Amendment. Of course, I would find this exceptionally humorous had not Bush recently appointed this man to be the new head of the CIA.

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[plalelal]

THIS LAND WAS YOUR FATHER'S LAND. iT AIN'T YOUS ANYMORE CAUSE YOU A PUNK!

[tampabayismyhome]

@sdkee A criminal justice degree can be obtained at a trade school or community college, and in most cases the student doesn't even have to complete the classes they just need a certain amount of hours than the police hire them and put them through the academy.

[sdkee]

@tampabayismyhome

> Since most people join the military ... use their GI bill

So the gangbangers the military is hiring now are *all* doing the GI bill thing? The military has kept reducing their standards on criminal record, tattoos, physical fitness to keep recruiting goals up.

Even so. You are aware that "criminal justice" is a major, and the the point of this major is to be a cop? And that they recruit from military? And cops here get high salary and early retirement.

[tampabayismyhome]

@sdkee You're so wrong, they hire out of the police academy, not the military. Since most people join the military out of high school and come back and use their GI bill to go to a real college. The police hire community college people with 60 hours of a criminal justice classes behind them. and then put them into a police academy for 4-5 weeks. Then they work their new exciting 23,000 a year job for the next 30 years. 100% TRUE

[sdkee]

@KYKIN44

No, the police recruit mainly from the military these days. Young kids who are promised futures of video games followed by white collar jobs get thrown into places where they are fighting for their lives against the "other" people who don't speak a language they understand and rightfully hate them. Many if the "others" try to kill them. So they are trained to kill the "others" to survive.

Then they come back and get hired by the police force only to project the "others" onto us.

[KYKIN44]

there is no such thing as Santa Claus, Easter Bunny , or a honest and intelligent police officer I am more afraid of the police officers than I am of the criminals because the government hires retarded police officers I believe they recruit them from the Mafia or the zoo most people are afraid of the police because they are armed and retarded hurt you at any time we need to start defending ourselves from police the police are cowards police said that are cowards

[DavidForthoffer]

Warrantless FISA wiretaps are clearly illegal.

The Supreme Court allows warrantless searches only when waiting for a warrant would cause irreparable harm (e.g., imminent serious bodily injury, imminent destruction of evidence) or the intrusion is minimal and society's need is great (e.g., sobriety checkpoints).

Warrantless FISA wiretaps are neither.

[DavidForthoffer]

@MrBullfrog9876: More precisely, probable cause and warrants convert would would otherwise be an unreasonable search into a reasonable search.

[MrBullfrog9876]

@DavidForthoffer Acording to your logic then --- probable cause and warrants are reserved for "unreasonable searches".

[DavidForthoffer]

@sdkee: Your assertion that I place myself squarely in the camp of those who should be taking the red pill but are too doped up on soma and stupefied by government education to even realize a decision is involved is not based on any facts or rational thought.

I suggest that my willingness to defer decisions about vaguely-described hypothetical situations until all the facts are known more indicates a wisdom well-suited to helping people, rather than a naÏve cookie-cutter approach.