1 John 1:8 Controversy

Was the Apostle John saying, we will always be sinners? The Prophet Isaiah taught us how to understand this verse.

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[PacmanBonez]

i have to ask this...

do you believe in the doctrine of 'free will' ?

[TrueCore08]

@PacmanBonez Is this DOCTRINE you speak of found in the scriptures, or is this DOCTRINE created for discussion by MAN? I believe God has given every man free will to believe truth or reject truth, as found in the scriptures. As for a DOCTRINE created in and of itself from the DOCTRINE OF SALVATION found in the GOSPEL, it's a distraction from the Gospel created in mans vain imagination.

[PacmanBonez]

@TrueCore08 dude, you know what i mean, can we quit w/ the poetic words.. i understand the 1corinthians verse about spiritual truths in spiritual words, but i cant even ask a simple question w/out getting a supersaved response.. i knew you believed in free will b/c thats the only way you could believe in the idea that man can walk in sinless perfection while in the flesh.. the same thing that Wesley taught

[TrueCore08]

@PacmanBonez If I knew what you meant I wouldn't have asked. I'm not familiar with teachings of MAN outside of scripture. I don't read them to know if I AGREE or DISAGREE. I have never IN MY LIFE read a book on what ANY MAN believes on free will outside of scripture. All things that PERTAIN to LIFE and GODLINESS are found in Christ. This is why I don't know Wesley's DOCTRINE. If scriptural answers offend you, "supersaved response," you are not seeking TRUTH. Go get a "superlost" response.

[Skinski7]

The Bible seems pretty clear to me. 1Pe 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; .... I have concluded that most people who say they believe what it says actually don't. That is the only explanation that makes sense for the logic of justifying continued sin for a Christian. One is either in rebellion to God or they are not. One cannot be both.

[TrueCore08]

@AchreousD You have a nice day as well!!

[AchreousD]

@TrueCore08 LOL you have a nice day.... Peace

[TrueCore08]

@AchreousD Maybe your OWN attention span and DESIRE is the focus of your comment because the "here a little there a little" concept of Isaiah was fully exercised in the video YOU CALLED too long! The book of Isaiah itself is 66 chapters... TOO LONG! Do you think Isaiah was in violation of the very principle he delivered? But since you like giving advice, I would expect you like receiving advice as well. You should have left your comment as you do your physical identity in your videos..HIDDEN!

[AchreousD]

@TrueCore08 :-) that is so true, but depending on who you are trying to reach, a long message will not be received because the immature and babes just don't have the desire and attention span to hear your message; thus the example of the Most High who gave a little information here and there… As you quoted in your opening “here a little there a little” moderation is a good thing also brother, but you do as you are lead... Peace unto you

[HolySpiritDwells]

@AchreousD , I encourage you to examine your heart...Imagine Timothy telling Paul, his sermon was too long...exactly, Timothy would not, because of his love for truth.