Chinese students in Taiwan say it's bad to hate the Beijing butchers

On Thursday, December 24, 2009, Chinese dissident Wang Dan (王丹) gave a speech at Taichung's Providence University. The day before his speech, flyers advertising the speech had been distributed all around the campus, but by the day of the event, they had disappeared or been ripped up.

Ten Chinese students showed up to attend the speech, seven of whom sat right up front. Although they were a minority in the audience, they took up much of the discussion time with long, rambling, and hostile questions.

Free speech is something their own government won't permit, but while in Taiwan, these Chinese students used that freedom to disparage Wang for hating the Beijing butchers responsible for the Tiananmen Square Massacre of June 4, 1989.

Contemporary Monthly (當代雜誌) editor-in-chief Chin Heng-wei (金恆煒) compared the students' behavior to that of the infamous Red Guards of China's tragic "Cultural Revolution" (無產階級文化大革命) whose violent attacks against people violated its own rule that "persuasion rather than force was to be used." We've seen the same sort of violent, nationalistic behavior from Chinese at soccer games in their own country, the Olympic Torch Relay in other countries, and at a recent speech by a Taiwanese student in S. Korea who "dared" to hold up a small ROC flag. Don't fool yourself by saying that this is nothing.

Related reading:
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Wang Dan warns of PRC student activity in Taiwan
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2009/12/29/2003462129
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Chinese democracy activist Wang Dan (王丹) stirred debate recently over his suspicions that Chinese students may be conducting organized activities on college campuses in Taiwan.

In his latest post on Facebook, Wang said he raised the matter because he wanted to remind Taiwanese that this was now taking place in their country.

Wang, who is a guest lecturer at Chengchi Universitys Graduate Institute of Taiwan History, gave a speech at Providence University in Taichung on Thursday titled How to See the Real China. During the two-hour event, a group of Chinese students studying in Taiwan challenged Wang, a student leader during the Tiananmen Square Massacre in 1989.

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They accused him of being unfair to the Chinese people because of his hatred for the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

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Wang said he was not making sensational comments to scare the public, adding that student council president at University of Hong Kong, who had previously made comments to the effect that there was no such thing as a Tiananmen Square Massacre on June 4, 1989, was elected following organized voting by Chinese students.

Taiwanese should take note of these things and not be too naive, Wang said.

Liao said the 70 students who attended the speech were free to ask questions. However, few Taiwanese students were able to do so, as the Chinese students dominated the session. He said that while Wang might have been slightly intimidated by the scene, the atmosphere actually wasnt too bad.

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When a Taiwanese student asked Wang about Chinas progress on democracy, Liao said, the student took a moment to send his regards to a Chinese student who had spoken before him, saying that the student from China loves his motherland very much. I also love my motherland very much, but I do not love China.
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Wikipedia article: Red Guards (China)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Guards_(China)
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The first students to call themselves "Red Guards" in China were a group of students at the Tsinghua University Middle School [...] Chairman Mao Zedong ordered that the manifesto of the Red Guards be broadcast on national radio and published in the People's Daily newspaper. This action gave the Red Guards political legitimacy, and student groups quickly began to appear across China.
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Liberty Times article (Hanzi):
王丹提警訊 在台陸生疑有組織活動
http://www.libertytimes.com.tw/2009/new/dec/28/today-fo3.htm

Ben Goren's "Letters from Taiwan":
Chinese Nationalism and Shades of Indignation
http://lettersfromtaiwan.blogspot.com/2009/12/chinese-nationalism-and-shades-...

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[mycorecpu]

王丹，乌尔凯西，尤其是哪个什么玲，完全就是政治投机分子，丢下­一帮学生命丧黄泉，自己速度跑到了美国。无耻的很，都想从那次中­获取政治资本，可怜了哪些学生。无耻至极啊

[TimMaddog]

@mycorecpu Interesting… Your own YouTube channel says you're in the US. Why aren't *you* in China fighting for democracy? Or are people who promote democracy for China the ones you are against?

[SekyinB]

确实  中国大陆很多学生的思想方法和红卫兵没什么区别。但台湾朋友也应­该知道，中国大陆也有不一样思想的学生。假如我在台湾，可能会和­我的那些义愤填膺热爱祖国的同胞起冲突。。。

在香港，有些中国大陆学生也和香港学生起过冲突。不过我以前就是­在香港上的大学，我看到更多中国大陆留学生还是在接触到自由讯息­之后学会了独立思考，最后很多变到和香港人思想差不多了。我想到­台湾的大陆学生也会这样。

[TimMaddog]

@SekyinB 我的感覺跟你的蠻不一樣。因為來到台灣的中國學生需要通過很多條­件，特別說要配合中共的思想，所以他們改變想法的機會很少。你有­看過多少中國學生有夠勇敢的站出來，說出反對中國政府的話？

PS: 我說「中國」這兩個字就是說PRC而已，不包括香港。因為台灣是­另外一個國家，我不會把中國稱為「大陸」。

[TimMaddog]

@SekyinB 我最後一句少了一個「所以」。應該寫的是： "因為台灣是另外一個國家，所以我不會把中國稱為「大陸」。"

[hlzhoutony900]

王丹为什么还活着呀,大陆特工去干嘛了, 台湾在所谓的民主下越来越娱乐化.

中国可千万别民主呀,民主在亚洲是笑话,亚洲人不适合民主,看看­台湾韩国.

如果中国也搞民主,那么中国就是世界政台的一个好莱坞，全球笑话­。

[TimMaddog]

@hlzhoutony900 中國國民為什麼有那麼多好像比較喜歡被權力政府壓迫的人？還是你­就是那個有權力者可以有辦法上網、批評民主？要是你的唯一小孩子­在地震發生的時候被豆腐建築扁死了，或是你因為政府毀滅你已經很­爛的生活而不想抗議，不想找出真相，那麼你不只是一個大笑話，而­且是個王八蛋！所以你願意選擇民主或是極權政府？

[racekidishere]

台灣真的有中國學生喔!太恐怖了吧!美國是不准恐怖分子用任何簽­證赴美,馬您娘卻千方百計想把敵人引進,完了完了真的完了!

[MRYANGZHIHUA]

你疯了吗，我是大陆人，我们支持抿主，支持中华民国，没有头脑，­被共党洗脑的人才不需要抿主，到时你可以去朝鲜呀。

[Angus9404]

Taiwanese are better than communist you guys are fucking stupid. I am Taiwanese

[Taipei2Tokyo]

@Ryan198891 We are all asians but we never team up? Hey Guy..... Maybe you can tell china to stop pointing 1500 missiles at us. That may be a good start eh?

[Mrasianpopmusic]

去你妈毛的台湾读书啊，丢人就在大陆丢就算了，人家愿意怎样怎样­好了，跑过去说个屁啊。。。自不量力。。政府的事情几个学生吵来­吵去的有用吗，你是去学习的，不是搞政治工作的。。。台湾人恨中­共让他们恨就完了呗，反正中共也好不到哪去。。到头来还不是和台­湾一样给老美当奴隶。。

[Ryan198891]

@DemocracynowChina Why you taiwanese always be such badass. Who do you think you are?! America n Japan treat you like their dog. Go swallow your proud and suck their dicks. Whatever Chinese, Taiwanese, japanese we all asian but we never team up. This is why white people treat us like second class citizen.

[DemocracynowChina]

@tdxownyou Bunch of retarded bastards, you should go back to China where you are silenced and killed

If you use the Freedom of Speech in an attempt to support a regime which suppress it, than you are just wasting your time, because you simply don`t agee to the rules of a Democratic Debate.

Why even bother come here and talk about your government??

If you agree to silence others, you should silence yourself first, not that you will be EVER MISSED

GO BACK TO CHINA