The best ball striker of all time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Hogan
William Ben Hogan (August 13, 1912 July 25, 1997) was an American golfer, and is generally considered one of the greatest golfers in the history of the game.[1] Born within six months of two of the other acknowledged golf greats of the twentieth century, Sam Snead and Byron Nelson, Hogan is notable for his profound influence on the golf swing theory and his legendary ball-striking ability, for which he remains renowned among players and aficionados. His life is depicted in the biographical film, Follow the Sun (1951).
64 Professional Wins (4th all time)
9 Major Championship Wins
2 - Masters
4 - US Open
1 - British Open
2 - PGA Championship
PGA Player of the Year - 1948, 1950, 1951, 1953
PGA Tour Money Leader - 1940, 1941, 1942, 1946, 1948
Vardon Trophy - 1940, 1941, 1948
@planesx12 I should have said snap instead of flip of wrist and meaning his left wrist.
planesx12 1 month ago
@planesx12 It actually flops a little meaning just along for the ride. You can actually see his swing plane out at the bottom and his right arm continue up where he actually has to physically stop his right arm because he didn't use it and had no tension in it. You can only see this in his short iron shots because in the bigger shots his torso stops it. His secret was removing his right arm from the golf swing through hip turn and an uncupping of his wrist which created a flip.
planesx12 1 month ago
When I first started playing golf, I learned from Hogans book. I didn't realize at the time that I was learning a hook correction swing. But, I became really good with the 3 iron. I could aim just left of a tree top and tear a shot just faded around that tree tip landing on the fairway.
If you watch Hogan's swing in the videos on youtube, you can see in shots that his right arm is taken out of the equation. You can see this especiialy on shots that he is not full out. The arm is loose.
planesx12 1 month ago
@Goynes42 I totally agree with you. I've witnessed teaching pros giving lessons on the swing without correcting the student of their flawed grip. It's my belief that if you want to swing like Hogan, you need to spend the time by trial and error to figure out & understand how everything works together in the swing. If you were a pro, and you figured out the secret, would you give it away, what took you years to figure out?
Banger1978 3 months ago
@Goynes42
...which, again, bears a close analogy to golf. Lots of videos, lots of talk, lots of analysis. You've heard how many 12-handicappers can enunciate every last little detail of the latest overcomplicated theory, and I want to ask them, do you really think any of the best players in history ever thought this way for one day in their careers? Do you think this is how they got that way? A guy like this is playing a different game--golf discussion, not golf. Or something.
emncaity 4 months ago
@Goynes42
Actually, that "losing weight and getting in shape" analogy works pretty well, now that I think about it. People act like it's a big mystery how you lose weight, and it's a zillion-dollar industry to complicate it. I've often thought about starting the "shut your piehole and move your fat a#$" diet fad. Like anybody really has to figure this out. Thinking about it and reading about it and watching videos about it just makes you feel like you're doing something when you're not...
emncaity 4 months ago
@Goynes42
Re having an excuse, I'd agree with that, too, for many players--who, again, have these expectations they seem hell-bent on fulfilling, to prove to themselves how frustrating a game it is, to avoid the pain of breaking away from a group of buds who are just fine with being mediocre and laughing about it...you know, sometimes you get the "oh, so you think you're better than us?" reaction, like the woman who's the only one amongst her friends to decide to lose weight and get in shape.
emncaity 4 months ago
@Goynes42
Absolutely true. As I've always said, a lot of (or almost all of) the complication in swing theory and teaching comes down to the fact that there's a fortune to be made in it. So many actions we perform routinely every day are about as hard, or harder, and we don't overcomplicate those--but if anybody ever finds out there's money in reordering people's conception of how hard those things are, there'll be a whole new market.
emncaity 4 months ago
@Goynes42
I do think it feeds into their expectations, which are further amplified by factors such as the endless "these guys are good" campaign by the PGA Tour, desigend to make a player understand that pros are so far above their level that they could never aspire to even a piece of it at some times and places. I actually don't even understand that, marketing-wise. Seems like the good amateur would be more interested if he felt more of a human-fallibility connection to a pro.
emncaity 4 months ago
@emncaity If those golfers would just put in the requisite time hitting balls, and found out that the golf swing really isn't terribly complicated, they would no longer have an excuse. Perhaps they're a bit afraid of that......and I'd bet a few dollars that the teachers who perpetuate this endless over-analysis would NEVER give up the way they teach...because the ideas that they teach are so complicated that their students must keep coming back...repeat business and more money in pocket.
Goynes42 4 months ago