Milton Friedman Puts A Young Michael Moore In His Place
*Update*
Holy cow! I never thought this video would get so many views. I uploaded it as a joke - this is not the real Michael Moore (although if you add some neckfat it would be hard to tell the difference). I meant "A Young Michael Moore" in the sense that a child who is great at basketball is a "Young Michael Jordan". Nevertheless, I'm glad it stirred some debate in the comment section, it's a great back and forth between Friedman and the kid, IMO. I thought the metaphor would be obvious, seeing as how the kid is a skinny redhead, while Michael Moore... well, isn't a skinny redhead. I apologize for the confusion.
@ergoTheVenusProject Fully Understood and I agree.
PeckerGoblin 21 minutes ago
@ergoTheVenusProject I actually agree with you lol. It was in my comment I deleted as I did not find it relevant with what I was trying to clarify to the person above. It was something to do with Human value being Exponential in nature because of potential to reproduce yadda yadda. Infinite was not an accurate term but fitting for the value that should be placed in mind. Actions hold different value and although I agree someone else holding different values may not for that same action.
PeckerGoblin 24 minutes ago
@poopshipdelight Of course that is my take on it and your more than welcome to ignore it.
MrJynko 1 hour ago
@poopshipdelight He is at that point clarifying the young man's position. He didn't say "I" he said "nobody" as in; when I debate "nobody" brings a principled arguement just a monetary one, Which in the context of the rest of the debate make complete sense. Picking one sentence out of context can often lead to a misunderstanding I find. He even says the young man's position is not one of argueing principle and then addresses it from there.
MrJynko 1 hour ago
@Muftobration I think you have it.
MrJynko 1 hour ago
@poopshipdelight I think Friedman is saying that people do not place infinite value on human life in general. Most people place infinite value on their own lives in the sense that you could not offer them anything in exchange for it, since the life itself is required to enjoy the benefits of whatever they might acquire.
Aside from this, I am certainly a free marketer, but I wasn't satisfied with Friedman's response. I'd like to have seen an explanation from the ground up if there had been time.
Muftobration 3 hours ago
@MrJynko What else can I do but judge him by his own words? He says in the video "Nobody can accept the principle that an infinite value can be put on a life" Is there really another way to interpret this? He's clearly saying this as an expression of what he believes. Don't try to turn this around and say that he's been agreeing with me all along, because I know he hasn't. I say life has infinite value, Friedman says life has finite value.
poopshipdelight 4 hours ago
@VassiliZaitsev12 Glad to be of service.
MrJynko 4 hours ago
@MrJynko Dang, I just realized what you are talking about. I can't believe I didn't see that before. Friedman is using a fallacy, reductio ad ridiculum. Awesome, thanks for pointing that out.
VassiliZaitsev12 4 hours ago
@poopshipdelight As I thought about it I think our disagreement may stem from a difference in understanding as to what he is trying to say. I see him using a debate device where you take someones arguement and expand it to the absurd to show the flaw in their base logic. You on the otherhand appear to take his statements literally. That being the case we would of course be at odds.
MrJynko 4 hours ago