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Mark Driscoll says that Jesus lusted after women and wanted to sleep with his female disciples.

The popular preacher from Mars Hill church says, "If you're tempted to these sorts of things -- including sexual sin -- some of you say, "Now Mark, Jesus wasn't sexually tempted." Well, of course he was -- 30 something year old single man who had women who adored him. You don't think he ever wanted the comfort of a woman? You don't think he ever got tired of going to bed by himself? You don't think that he didn't once want to have intimate relations with a woman? He was tempted."

My response... A few points...

1) Driscoll cannot imagine the God-man Jesus to be perfect. He cannot imagine Christ not lusting after women. He says, "You don't think he ever got tired of going to bed by himself? You don't think that he didn't once want to have intimate relations with a woman?" And why does Driscoll think Jesus lusted after women? "of course he was -- 30 something year old single man who had women who adored him."

Driscoll makes Jesus sound like one of those guys that start a cult, so they can be surrounded by women and obtain sexual favors. Or perhaps Driscoll's Jesus is like a teenage guy who joins a church youth group because of the abundance of girls there?

Driscoll has reduced the mind of Christ to the mind of a sinful, carnal, earthly pervert. So, obviously, Driscoll has failed to see Christ in the Psalms. Simply turn to Psalm 1, and see Jesus as the sinless Man who "mediates upon God's Law DAY AND NIGHT."

"Oh no", Driscoll would say, "Jesus wasn't mediating on the Law day and night - some of the time, he was fantasizing about his female disciples".

Secondly...

2) Driscoll has no idea what sin is. Well, he has *an* idea -- it's just not the Biblical idea. He says, "we need to distinguish between temptation and sin. They're two totally different things. If you don't get this distinction, Satan will absolutely destroy your conscience. Temptation is where we are presented with an opportunity to sin. Sin is when we act on it."

Here, Driscoll says that sin = acting. Wrong! It's a lot easier to sin than that.

Christ says, that even looking at a woman lustfully IS committing adultery (apparently, Christ didn't realize he was condemning himself as an adulterer, according to Driscoll?)

Matthew 5
27 You have heard that it was said to the ancients: "Do not commit adultery." [Ex. 20:14; Deut. 5:18]
28 But I say to you, Everyone looking at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Simply wanting to have relations with a woman who is not your wife -- is sin. To say that Jesus looked at a woman lustfully is to say Jesus sinned. And, obviously, if Jesus sinned he could have saved no one from the curse of the Law. He would have to save himself from the curse of the Law.

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[goldenboot923]

Dude, you Andrew Bain, are putting words into Mark Driscoll's mouth - and you, have not distinguished yourself - the difference between temptation and sin. You are quoting Driscoll out of context.

[spsantacruz]

Pitiful. You call Driscoll agnostic about predestination. You are Gnostic about Jesus. You don't want Him to be fully human. You don't like the fact that Jesus was human. You have to put words in the mouth of people like Driscoll to get your point across, and you do it in a way that makes it seem as if your words are actually the words of the person you are bashing.

[jackiebillkaulitz]

So I think Driscoll is mostly wrong. Driscoll could say Jesus was attracted to women but the attraction does not have to go any further! We don't need to lust. We don't need to daydream. We don't need to "want to take a woman to bed"! If I'm human and I've never wanted to go to bed with a man, why would Jesus want to? He had no relationship that bridged simple attraction to lust/want/temptation.

[jackiebillkaulitz]

I think the problem is the words being used. Did Jesus ever WANT to sleep with a woman? No. I'm a woman & I have never EVER WANTED or even gotten close to wanting to sleep with a man. Zero desire 'cuz I've never been in love or been intimate. Do I have normal human sexual interests that are weaker than WANTING to sleep with a man, such as a physical attraction to men? Yes. But WANT/TEMP is different from attraction. U wud nd relationship to bridge the two. So to say Jesus WANTED/TEMPTED is wrong

[rawsz4e]

How do you know reality is real?

[zebb1111]

you sir are lying about these mens position....you are antichrist though you probably dont even mean to be...you seem to be simply ignorant.

go give your last dollar to benny hinn or someone like that and leave the Godly alone.

[bones88ify]

Your full of balogni.

[RetiredAt18]

People really like u mr.AndrewcBain

[JesusNonEnviromental]

I agree brother, Jesus said that if a man lusts in his heart he is an adulterer so Driscoll thinks Jesus was an adulterer? There was no darkness in Christ that temptation would entice Him. This is basic doctrine. Brother, Im reading Andrew Farleys Book "The Naked Gospel" Any thoughts or rebukes? 

[givemejesus1]

Andrew, God bless you, but you are putting words into Driscoll's mouth, plain and simple.  Extremely divisive, and extremely poor scholarship.

[mistamoon1]

Please remove this nonsense

[daileydevotion]

Driscoll seems to contradict himself, I'm not exactly in agreement with everything Mr. Bain said. However, to say that Jesus "wanted to lay with women intimately", is completely heretical. Jesus may have been tempted to lust, but never ONCE DESIRED OR WANTED ANYTHING TO DO WITH SIN. Jesus could not have sinned, because He is God; God cannot sin. Jesus NEVER wanted the comfort of a woman, to say that is to say we are allowed to commit adultery in the heart and not be sinning...