00# 7: Response to the Baptists

A fascinating ongoing conversation with the Baptist Church.

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[martalog121]

'human experience and common sense' are are not the measure of things,God is the measure of all things,and in the Bible God is very explicit about our nature (Gen. 6:5 ;Isa. 64:6)

humanity might look nice and not so depraved to you, but then again you are not the measure

as for the 'robots', again the Bible presents man as: "lump of clay" (Rom. 9:21);"nothing"(Dan.4:35)

the technological diff. between a "robot" and a "lump of clay" is HUGE!

[allsaintsmonastery]

@martalog121 One can see why you Sectarians believe in "total depravity." In the 30 Years War a full 40% of the population of Europe was slaughtered as three Western "Christian" Sects fought each other over which was true and which was not. And the Menonnites had to flee to Orthodox Russia in order not to be massacred by their fellow Protestants and the Latins. Perhaps Protestants actually are totally depraved; the rest of humanity is not.

[XSC3]

I can hear you clearly. it's a pity several of the early episodes were reduced to static. would you re-upload those videos in the future?

[martalog121]

@allsaintsmonastery

comparing the Protestants with the Gnostics is a far cry and i'll pretend you never made the comment

why stop at Augustine when i gave you the apostle Paul?

[allsaintsmonastery]

@martalog121 The point is that Augustine was a heresiarch who introduced Gnosticism into the Latin Church, and the daughters of the Vatican, the Protestants, expanded on that Gnosticism. All Protestantism is a form of Gnosticism rather than Christianity.

[martalog121]

@allsaintsmonastery

maybe u'll take some time to address my comments on your video post,now ?

[martalog121]

@allsaintsmonastery

pointing out the speck in everybody's eye is some how going to make your neoplatonism the "Apostolic Church" ?u make me laugh!good joke

[martalog121]

@allsaintsmonastery

Calvin was not a 'pope' in Geneva and in the case of Servetus' death Calvin pleaded for beheading instead of burning.Calvin "followed" Augustine and the black guy(Augustine) "followed" Paul,so what's your point again?

as for "Sectarians being not depandable witnesses",i never claimed they are/were....your point?

[allsaintsmonastery]

@martalog121 Some of you believe in the novel Darbyite doctrine of Rapture, others deny it, some of you believe in Sacraments, others hate the very idea, some of you believe in baptism, others in sprinkling, and hate each other because of the disagreement. Some of you teach the pagan doctrine of Atonement, other come closer to the Apostolic teaching. Some adopt the "original guilt" ideology, others deny it. None of you even know who and what you are.

[allsaintsmonastery]

@martalog121 He burned as many people to death on his side of Geneva as the Latins did on theirs. He also followed Augustine who is the father of all Latin heresies and the toxin in the contradictory and divided streams of Sectarianism in the West. But then, no two of you Sectarian groups agree with each other, and you keep dividing and subdividing against each other, so you are not dependable witnesses to anything. Some of you view Christians as robots, predestined, others as having free will.

[martalog121]

"Freedom and being forced to follow a plan are contradictory concepts"

maybe u should stop ascribing to the false Greek (philosophycal) dichotomy (free will and God's sovereignty) ?