Lord of the Ants

My response to RationalRoundtable's answer to Tough Question 35

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[DiggumSmack77]

Zac, the elements that defines a human is considered "bad" to the religious. From a religious stand point, Humans can not live a "sinless" life...even jesus. I'm sure he had sexual urges just like any other human. That's pretty similar to someone saying, they have never blinked once in their life, or gotten hungry, or never relieved themselves.

[Beskargam]

Do they deserve to be tortured for eternity?

[YHWHiscoming]

I'm praying for you. God Bless.

[gmsherry1953]

@gmsherry1953 I'm not saying I believe this stuff but as a lifelong cultural Christian I do think it makes better sense than non-believers, looking for something to attack, sometimes say it does. To me, the basic flaw in Christianity is WHY would God create us unsuitable for our purpose - knowing we would fall - and then punish us for having the nature he gave us? Then there are problems with the supposed authority of Scripture given what a hot mess it is. Not sure this is a good example.

[gmsherry1953]

@gmsherry1953 Another viewpoint is that the thief was paying the price not to God - since God's going to send him to hell anyway - but to Man, to the Romans, to human justice. He was guilty and was justly sentenced to death under human law and that was the sense in which he was paying the price - the human price. Jesus was innocent in human terms as well as divine ones. A third way to look at it - Jesus' suffering was greater because he was innocent, it's worse to be punished unjustly.

[gmsherry1953]

@azsuperman01 As I understand it (odious as it may seem) your first statement is exactly correct. Punishing a guilty person is a break-even - sin, punishment, back to zero, nothing lost but nothing gained. Punishing an innocent person actually generates some credit; and since God seems to operate in infinites (any sin is infinitely offensive and deserves infinite punishment) so the death of one innocent man produces infinite potential forgiveness. That's why the thief's suffering was not equal.

[MissChaceurz]

They paid the price according to civil laws however paying the price for Gods law is alot more severe..The suffering of Jesus Christ is alot more then the theif God wrath upon him was alot more severe bearing the sin and guilt of the world. Our suffering is Gods priority. Jesus came to make it right for God to work against sin in our lives. Only through the death of Jesus can God come back and take back what is his.

[inphanta]

@SheepRCool17: It's a remix of 'Hunting For Witches' by Bloc Party.

[matt0198922]

@bornagain001 you make life sound like such a false dichotomy

[bornagain001]

"I would prefer something a little more constructive, like perhaps god healing them and making them guardian angels till they paid their dues."

God will not care "what you prefer". There is NOTHING in God's INFALLIBLE Word that says anything about "paying ones dues." It does however mention ETERNAL.

[SheepRCool17]

Hey, AZSuperman01, what's the name to the song in the beginning of this video?! It's awesome.