Unification Sucks

Mandatory "oneness" is not an answer to anything.

...In fact, it downright sucks.

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[Ironkettle]

Would it be accurate to say that if everyone were "one" we would bring ALL our problems to each other? So the problems are like money, in a sense, that if one has 5 problems and one has 7... they will both end up with 12? So if I were a constant eater is a vice I have, but it will impinge on the others stocks of food? So they can both agree that this eating problem is ruining both of them (glutton and starving)? It's weird how antithetical that is but it's the same problem.

[TheLogicJunkie]

Hmmm... That's a very different line of thinking. I hadn't considered things in that way, but how about looking at it this way:

How much of your hypothetical gluttony is facilitated by one large, unified society, where you have access to a much larger, centralized store of communal food than you would otherwise -- if there were a kind of individualizing firewall between food stores of each individual? Under that rationale, unification still sucks.

[Ironkettle]

@TheLogicJunkie I am not sure I understand. The fact there is a food source (in abundance) this solidifies the glutton concept? I'd have to agree on that, if that's what you mean. (I don't mean to be dense but I am awkward in discussion.)

Also, what I seem to be understanding is a "Set" diet. Both ways would solidify gluttony in the mind.

And to bring it to unification, I feel that this is also saying that it destroys individuality, if not mistaken. Which it would. We'd be ashamed of deviation.

[XaneCrazy]

Here's one rule for oneness- respect all life and it's environment (doesn't mean you can't eat them)

[NewHeathen78]

Also, unification of Tech/internet is a weakness. Ideally just get a group to develop a new incompatible language and email protocol, and the gov. can't necessarily track it unless they have a key (like the enigma machine).

[TheLogicJunkie]

The problem now is that we have just way, way too many people, and so many of them are so completely dependent (they're not even competent enough to be CO-dependent) and so unbelievably sociopathic and feeble-minded.

I'm starting to look back at all of human civilizational development, and seeing so much of all that as gratuitous vanity which has only created a completely unnecessary nightmare.

[TheLogicJunkie]

Actually, I think a lot of it is due to quite the opposite... too much leadership, which can never anticipate all the ever-shifting needs of "the people".

I think that it was probably necessary to coalesce and marshall our human resources in order to develop the best critical knowledge and systems, but that needed to be a temporary measure, so that eventually people could use all those developments to live more independently, in a more effective way.

[ashflix123]

From a global standpoint, wouldn't you agree that those overstressed populations are due to corrupt leadership? If you use the USA, for example, as a model for a global civilization, don't you think it demonstrates how ppl of many different cultures can coexist in relative harmony? Yes, I do agree that humans need challenges to grow and perhaps this may even be the actual point of existence (part of the evolution process). Im not suggesting it would be boring.

[TheLogicJunkie]

Now, mind you, I'm confident that every human being exists on a scale somewhere between totally stressed out and overcontentedly bored. Those that are stressed out will crave more peace, and those who are overcomfortable will crave more strike. But the strife need, I think, will always be there to some degree.

This is why I think that needs will vary from place to place. There will be places where everything is enjoyed as peaceful and homogenous, and places that are the opposite.

[TheLogicJunkie]

I'm not sure that living creatures really thrive in perfect harmony. I think the hallmark of intelligent life -- and, very likely, all life -- is the base and fundamental problem of cellular and organismic stimulation. We human beings often call it "boredom" or "emptiness".

...I've come to be convinced that human beings need a certain quota of life-strife in order to be happy; it shakes things up, it challenges us, and we actually grow in response to it.