What the Ice Cores Tell Us, and How Deniers Distort it
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@Dodger481
we know the radiative properties. we know they work, because CO2 lasers work, and heat seeking missiles, which follow those laws, work. They work because co2 has certain properties. If co2 did not have those properties, none of these things would function. We know that the earth would be frozen without the radiative behavior of GHGs.
your question is nonsensical, since the physical behavior that makes warming inevitable is demonstrated thousands of times every day.
greenman3610 6 minutes ago
@Dodger481
does not resolve for me
greenman3610 10 minutes ago
@greenman3610
I haven't questioned any myself, but I would like to know what tests or series of tests would falsify the CAGW theory. Science tests theories, religion requires faith, which is it?
Dodger481 1 hour ago
@Dodger481
so what aspect of the radiative properties of greenhouse gases have been called into question by the research you cite?
greenman3610 4 hours ago
@greenman3610
Interesting, as someone who follows physics quite closely I can tell you that a cornerstone of physics for the last 50 years has recently come into question, that being einsteins theory of relativity as neutrinos have been discovered traveling faster than the speed of light, thereby requiring the theory of relativity to be modified.
If CAGW does not have a test or series of tests that falsify the theory it is not science but a religion. What are they?
Dodger481 10 hours ago
@Dodger481
if we find out that the last 300 years of physics is wrong.
greenman3610 12 hours ago
@greenman3610
Yes approximate the predictions of scientists today. Key word Predictions that have been falsified. Quick question what is the test or tests that effectively falsify the catastrophic global warming scenario?
Dodger481 19 hours ago
@Dodger481
based on what projections? Svante Arrhenius calculations in 1896 closely approximate the prediction of scientists today. Jim Hansen's projections of 1988 are reasonably close to what we are seeing. The pioneers of climate told us things would get warmer, and they have.
Also, we are seeing the shrinking of global sea ice, especially northern polar ice, melting ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica, disappearing glaciers, mass movements of animals and plants.
watch?v=yLYqzIhhT6o
greenman3610 1 day ago
@greenman3610
co2 emission in 1970 we're 15.5 billion tonnes to 2010 where thay are now 33 billion tons a doubling of emissions. The atmosphereic concentration of c02 has increased from 330 ppm in 1980 to 400 ppm today. We should be seeing temperatures much higher than we do today based on the projections of temperature to co2. This is not at all what we see.
Dodger481 1 day ago