Daniel Komen - 3000m World Record
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YiftertheShifter1 acts like some authority, but is a Mario player. LMAO
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@YiftertheShifter1 My apologies for not getting back to you sooner. We will never know for sure, which is a shame. I would say that athletes competing today are more clean now then they were about 10-15 years ago. No reason to suspect a guy like Rudisha for now. In an article from a couple of years back, Nick Willis (might have been his dad), said that he wouldn't have been anywhere near good enough to compete for medals back in those days due to so much drug use. Cheers buddy!
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@YiftertheShifter1 First I would just like to say that I am impressed that you're not so naive anymore compared to one or two years ago. Reminds me a lot of myself when I was a bit younger when I still believed guys like Aouita and Morceli were clean.
I guess the problem I have with that whole era from around 91-05 was the depth all across the board. No names running 3:30 and guys like El G that were able to run 3:27-28 week in week out looking fresh as a daisy seconds after finishing a race.
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@7agneskickingbird7 Yes, it does raise many questions, but you also have to consider that those who set the standards in the '90s pretty much all retired/ moved on at around 2005 (i.e. Guerrouj retires; Geb moves to the roads, but sets more WRs there; Lagat's 1500m abilities decline; Kipketer retires). There are a lot of factors that determine performance in distance running, and EPO/ other drug use could be one of them, though we'll never know for sure.
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@YiftertheShifter1 Of course I considered that as well. I just don't think that is was a coincidence that right around 2005 times slowed down. 3:29-30 is now a world leading time again. Some exceptional talents like Geb and Bekele (both managed by Hermens, but that's a can of worms for another day) can't get within 5 seconds. I just have a hard time believing that a guy like Komen wasn't EPO when it was totally undectable and could dramatically enhance your performance and get you lots of money.
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@7agneskickingbird7 Well you also have to consider that there are few people really dominating the scene, who are willing to go for this sort of time/ pace. When there is (i.e. Rudisha in the 800m), they might have a good attempt. With that in mind, Daniel Komen was one of the exceptional talents of the late 90's; his career was very short, but had astonishing landmarks.
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I am going to have to take this performance with a huge pinch of salt due to the fact that EPO was totally undetectable and there was zero chance of being caught. Now that testing has improved somewhat no one can get even close.
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The best record on the books..just draw-dropping.
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Those guys are so black lol
a 1.56 800m fuck my life...
buerger23 11 months ago 34
@Traviskula. Yes, without question one of the greatest performances in the history of sport. And not only from Dan Komen on the track... The Cram/Hutchings commentary is also one of the greatest performances of all time. "Well, you can hear... 1:56...that is...fast!" "I hope they haven't killed this off" "A 57.6 lap!" [laughter from Hutchings] 3:53.7 or so at four laps..."I've never seen anything like this..." etc. No indeed you haven't and neither have we.
KingLiopleurodon 1 year ago 20