Romans 5:18
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
None of the other points of calvinism, like election, make sense if Jesus gift is unto all men.
@jundurias .......what would you call yourself? Faithwise?
willpower242 26 minutes ago
@jundurias you=It is more sensible than believing literally that Adam and Eve committed sin by eating fruit.
So you would rather believe in a totally fabricated lie with NO authority than believe the Word of God that clearly teaches Adam/Eve sinned by eating fruit? That is really really really stupid..........you can believe anything then.......anything BUT the real truth!!!#urintrouble
willpower242 38 minutes ago
@Jundurias "Jesus told some of the Pharisees that they are of their father the devil.(John 8:44) Was Jesus lying?"
Jesus ALSO told them that they were "Offspring of Abraham" John 8:37 & 56. Jesus was referring to their SPIRITUAL condition when referring to them as being of Satan, and their PHYSICAL condition when referring to them as being "Offspring of Abraham".
Jesus is saying being a PHYSICAL descendant of Abraham is not enough to qualify them for SALVATION.
You Err.
Isaiah1v18 1 hour ago
@Jundurias "Cain was not the seed of God but Abel is. When Eve gave birth to Seth, She said "God has appointed me another seed instead of Abel"...
Youre obsessed with genealogies bringing in false doctrines, Paul warned about you;
Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels... for they are unprofitable and WORTHLESS.
You need to repent, or be tormented forever, according to Jesus.
Isaiah1v18 2 hours ago
@jundurias "I said that satan entered the serpent. It was the serpent that had sex with Eve"
Eve mating with the serpent appears in the early Gnostic writings; Gospel of Philip, but was rejected as HERESY by Iraneus (180 A.D) & later theologians.
Adam was the 1ST Human, ALONE on Earth (Gen.2:18), Eve was made from his rib, making her the 2nd human. The Serpent was NOT A PERSON, but a crafty beast of the field (Gen.3:1) which Satan used to DECEIVE Eve (1Tim.2:14) not to have sex with!
Isaiah1v18 2 hours ago
@jundurias "I said that I don't believe in eternal torture"
Matt.25:46
And these will go away into ETERNAL [Aionious] PUNISHMENT [kolasin], but the righteous into ETERNAL life."
'Aionious' Strongs#166- ETERNAL, UNENDING
'Kolazin' Strongs#2851- TORMENT, PUNISHMENT, CHASTISEMENT
Jesus said sinners would suffer Eternal Punishment/Torment, was Jesus lying?
Isaiah1v18 2 hours ago
@Isaiah1v18 ,3. There are two groups of people in this world. The Wheat and the Tare. The wheat are the children of God but the Tare are the children of the devil. It was explained by Jesus in the parable of the Wheat and the Tare. Sometimes they refered as the sheep and the goats. The sheep can be lost but it can be found. It can be regenerated because it is a seed of God. The goat cannot be regenerated, it cannot turn into a sheep. They will always do the will of their father, the devil.
jundurias 4 hours ago
@Isaiah1v18 , 2. Jesus told some of the Pharisees that they are of their father the devil.(John 8:44) Was Jesus lying?
Adam is the son of God. How can he be the father of Cain who is of the devil?
Cain was not the seed of God but Abel is. When Eve gave birth to Seth, She said "God has appointed me another seed instead of Abel." When Abel died God appointed another seed because Cain was not a seed of God. Study the parable of Wheat and Tare. There are two groups of people in this world.
jundurias 4 hours ago
@Isaiah1v18 ,1. Did I say eternal hell does not exist? Do not put words in my mouth. I said that I don't believe in eternal torture. You cannot find that in the scriptures. Jesus did not say that either.
Did I say that satan had sex with Eve? I said that satan entered the serpent. It was the serpent that had sex with Eve.. It is more sensible than believing literally that Adam and Eve committed sin by eating fruit.
John said that Cain was of the wicked one(devil).
jundurias 5 hours ago
@WCOFTheology ....I am afraid to ask this......but is any of this getting through to you? .....anything? .....throw me a bone......
willpower242 7 hours ago