The crisis and the case for socialism: Tony Benn part 1 of 2

A hurricane is sweeping through the world economic system. It will bring financial ruin, mass unemployment, poverty and starvation to large parts of the world. But it will also bring a fightback from ordinary people against the ravages of the system.

This one-day special Marxism event hosted by the Socialist Workers Party brought together some of the best speakers on the left to discuss and debate the key issues thrown up by the crisis

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[jeanpaulfelix]

thankyou so so much for this...

The future is socialism

[MrYoungIndependence]

Society consists of the workers whom you claim are the same as the state. That's exactly what you just implied.

[MrYoungIndependence]

@theMadMarxist You have simply proved my point by espousing your belief that society is the same as the state. That is not the case at all; one is too small and the other is too big.

[MrYoungIndependence]

@theMadMarxist Communism doesn't help the workers at all, only the state. It doesn't matter what you believe in, for it can never work in practice.

[MrYoungIndependence]

@theMadMarxist You're completely missing the point; I'm sure that Marx's intentions were decent and honorable, but communism cannot be implemented without big government. A state with the power to redistribute everything in favour of the workers is a totalitarian organisation.

[MrYoungIndependence]

Socialism benefits the political elite and no one else. It punishes the working class by taxing them excessively. It destroys social mobility and stops people from reaching their potential. People like Benn cannot claim to believe in democracy when they so blatantly support big government.

[ButherLi55ett]

@NatDemUK Maybe you should stop reading the Daily Mail, try something else. A book perhaps. What have you got against the abolition of private property? It doesn't mean your house or where you live is 'abolished'.

[NatDemUK]

Marxist socialism creates no accomplishment, mass immigration, abolition of law and order and the nations, abolition of private property and political correctness.

I laugh that he preaches democracy, because he clearly is not. The poor have never had it so bad: welfare dependency and asylum scroungers can come to scrounge on the welfare system.