(Cont.)...He really dissected this guy. Figuring out Duran was difficult,however, Hearns KO'd him ,I believe ,in two. And then there is the Mugabi fight. After Hagler annihilated him, he (Mugabi) was never the same.
@thievinbrudda , "but facts are facts, Valdez was the biggest puncher in the 70's middleweights beside Eugene Hart"...what about Monzón?,he was a bigger puncher as well; ask Nino Benvenutti. I don't know ,bro. Hagler was a great boxer-puncher,his skills were just surpassed by Leonard. Every now and then I see some of his fights and there was one against a Venezuelan boxer named Fulgencio Obelmejías.......
last but not least, The Thrilla in Manila was the third and final famous boxing match between Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier for the Heavyweight Boxing... could have gone either way before Eddie Futch, Frazier 's trainer,stopped it . Afterwards, Ali said that his body ached so much he could not breath and that Frazier (my respects for this great boxer) had taken him to hell. Styles make fights and we are hypothetically speaking. Remember,boxing is the theater of the unexpected.
@thievinbrudda , Styles makes fight. Roberto Durán was KO'd by Hearns and Hagler KO'd Hearns, but Marvin Hagler could not put Durán out in a close fight. In boxing, if A beats B and B beats C, it does not necessarily means that A beats C. Take for example Ali, Frazier, Foreman. Ali KO'd Foreman, Foreman KO'd Frazier and last but not least Frazier beat Ali the first fight,Ali won the second, and ...
monzon was a wife beater and a murderer!
jjhkjhgkjh 3 weeks ago
@raulcitraro
nah monzon didnt hit harder than valdez , monzon was landing punches on briscoe all night and didnt drop him.
valdez ko'd him in 7 rounds
valdez hit harder for sure.
thievinbrudda 4 weeks ago
(Cont.)...He really dissected this guy. Figuring out Duran was difficult,however, Hearns KO'd him ,I believe ,in two. And then there is the Mugabi fight. After Hagler annihilated him, he (Mugabi) was never the same.
raulcitraro 4 weeks ago
@thievinbrudda , "but facts are facts, Valdez was the biggest puncher in the 70's middleweights beside Eugene Hart"...what about Monzón?,he was a bigger puncher as well; ask Nino Benvenutti. I don't know ,bro. Hagler was a great boxer-puncher,his skills were just surpassed by Leonard. Every now and then I see some of his fights and there was one against a Venezuelan boxer named Fulgencio Obelmejías.......
raulcitraro 4 weeks ago
@thievinbrudda so i really dont see hagler getting work done in the clinches.
it will be a hard fight but monzon wins it , 2-3 points imo.
thievinbrudda 4 weeks ago
@raulcitraro
i know that
but facts are facts, valdez was the biggest puncher in the 70's middleweights beside eugene hart
if he cant KO monzon in 30 rounds of fighting, hagler isnt going to do it.
also , if hagler had such trouble figuring out duran, then monzon is going to give him a headache.
hagler will have trouble taking monzon at long range , thats monzons bread and butter.
but he cant go inside either, valdez said being clinched by monzon was like being in a vice grip
thievinbrudda 4 weeks ago
@53redcobra , No doubt about it. But not only did Hagler have the same abilities but also speed....
raulcitraro 1 month ago
last but not least, The Thrilla in Manila was the third and final famous boxing match between Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier for the Heavyweight Boxing... could have gone either way before Eddie Futch, Frazier 's trainer,stopped it . Afterwards, Ali said that his body ached so much he could not breath and that Frazier (my respects for this great boxer) had taken him to hell. Styles make fights and we are hypothetically speaking. Remember,boxing is the theater of the unexpected.
raulcitraro 1 month ago
@thievinbrudda , Styles makes fight. Roberto Durán was KO'd by Hearns and Hagler KO'd Hearns, but Marvin Hagler could not put Durán out in a close fight. In boxing, if A beats B and B beats C, it does not necessarily means that A beats C. Take for example Ali, Frazier, Foreman. Ali KO'd Foreman, Foreman KO'd Frazier and last but not least Frazier beat Ali the first fight,Ali won the second, and ...
raulcitraro 1 month ago
@Wamz1978 , Yeah, you are right!, either one could have decisioned the other.
raulcitraro 1 month ago