extremely kinky but at the same time demands the bizarre visualization of a "cleaning" substance! pure catholic tension! brilliant spin on the catholic mindset!
no, do you want me to argue that some perfect system exists or that there is some correct perspective? Politics has always been and will likely always be a battle of wills, if first we admit that then we build an immunity to absolutist rule of any ideology, which can be argued to be a positive thing in increasing the amount of freedom any human being can experience.
@gratex Comparisons based on what though? What's the baseline, utility? functinality? freedom of the individual? personal preference?..... Is there a baseline everyone 'should' refer to?
er because systems can be related, compared if you will in a relativistic system. Something is better in comparison to something else. A democractic system is considerably better than a system of idolatry of some randomly selected autocrat like under all theocracies.
@gratex I never suggested bowing to the Vatican. I'm merely asking who is establishing these ground rules you were talking about and why should anyone adhere/abide/pay any attention to them? You are a relativist but still think in terms of 'shoulds' it seems to me. I'm just trying to figure out why.
I don't actually like democracy, as you should know,but this line of questioning by yourself is patently ridiculous: should we bow to the Vatican? Because democracy is imperfect one should not criticise theocracy?
@gratex In a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society I would most certainly agree, but that is just opinion. Democracies can still be oppressive; you still have that old 'tyrrany of the majority' looming large. So who gets to decide what the rules are and why should I listen to them?
love the title, btw...Rope-A-Pope...
extremely kinky but at the same time demands the bizarre visualization of a "cleaning" substance! pure catholic tension! brilliant spin on the catholic mindset!
pauweur 1 year ago
this is funny too.... yah, I've never been into that kind of shit either! fucking catholics...absolute Morons!
pauweur 1 year ago
LoL. The video title should deserve and award alone.
LoiteringWithIntent 1 year ago
@ballyboneman
no, do you want me to argue that some perfect system exists or that there is some correct perspective? Politics has always been and will likely always be a battle of wills, if first we admit that then we build an immunity to absolutist rule of any ideology, which can be argued to be a positive thing in increasing the amount of freedom any human being can experience.
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex Comparisons based on what though? What's the baseline, utility? functinality? freedom of the individual? personal preference?..... Is there a baseline everyone 'should' refer to?
ballyboneman 1 year ago
@ballyboneman
er because systems can be related, compared if you will in a relativistic system. Something is better in comparison to something else. A democractic system is considerably better than a system of idolatry of some randomly selected autocrat like under all theocracies.
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex I never suggested bowing to the Vatican. I'm merely asking who is establishing these ground rules you were talking about and why should anyone adhere/abide/pay any attention to them? You are a relativist but still think in terms of 'shoulds' it seems to me. I'm just trying to figure out why.
ballyboneman 1 year ago
@ballyboneman
I don't actually like democracy, as you should know,but this line of questioning by yourself is patently ridiculous: should we bow to the Vatican? Because democracy is imperfect one should not criticise theocracy?
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex In a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society I would most certainly agree, but that is just opinion. Democracies can still be oppressive; you still have that old 'tyrrany of the majority' looming large. So who gets to decide what the rules are and why should I listen to them?
ballyboneman 1 year ago
@ballyboneman
well there's this thing called democracy which is considerably better than theocracy.
gratex 1 year ago