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1st September 2010. The BBC broadcasts Tony Blair interviewed by Andrew Marr.
Transcript
Andrew Marr: After 9/11 you thought there was a sort of world war between Islamism and the West. however we define it?
Tony Blair: Well this extremist strain within Islamism, yeah
Andrew Marr: Yes.
Tony Blair: This is a global phenomenon and the sooner we understand that and deal with it and recognise and this is the big choice ..
Andrew Marr: And has the West got what it takes?
Tony Blair: Well I hope so - but it's got to recover its confidence in itself and its got to realise
Andrew Marr: Partly so badly knocked over Iraq of course.
Tony Blair: Well but it shouldn't lose its confidence over that. The fact is the reason it has been tough in Iraq is that people are driving car bombs into crowded markets and trying to kill the first 20, 30, 40, 50 people they see. That is evil and wrong and we should be standing up against it and fighting it. We shouldn't be sitting there and saying 'Well maybe these people are just like that and therefore we should let them got on with it.'
Andrew Marr: And similarly in Afghanistan where there are attacks going on during the elections people who are trying to get female candidates elected in Afghanistan and the same thing going on. We have to finish the job. The West has to finish that job before we pull out or disaster.
Tony Blair: Well we have to finish the job, yeah, for sure. Look what did the Taliban, just a few days back, they're going to stone a couple to death 'cause they are in love! !!! You can't compromise with that. You've got to take it on!
Andrew Marr: So we have a moral obligation in our part of the world to change that society, to ensure that society ..
Tony Blair: We actually have a reason of self interest. I mean there is a, obviously you can't see some of the things they do like executing teachers for teaching girls and not feel a sense of moral compulsion but that's not actually the principle reason - it is a self-interested reason.
This movement is still there. It is, I'm afraid, still strong. It has a narrative that reaches into a far larger part of the population that is to do with the West and Islam and so on.
Andrew Marr: But isn't it partly so strong because of the nature of our response because we went in so heavy, we went in so hard.
Tony Blair: That's the debate Andrew. That is absolutely the heart of the debate and the West's got to resolve this debate. Is the reason why they are like that because of us or is it actually because of them?
Now, my view in the end is we should stop being in a situation where we think we've caused this. We haven't caused this. If you're a Muslim in this country in Britain you've got greater freedom than many Muslims in Muslim countries. I mean it's nonsense!
I know it is difficult. It will take a long time but if we in Europe decide the pain is too great to stand alongside America that's fine but we'll find in the end we're obliged to deal with it at a later time and in an even more difficult and acute way and if Iran ends up with a nuclear weapon do not be under any doubt at all that will change the entire balance of power in the most troubled region of the world.
Full interview - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00tn4fw
This bastard just can't keep away, can he?
dcamaggots 1 year ago
@dcamaggots Aww. Poor Tony Blair. We've hardly seen him since Gordon Brown took his place. Not like the bastard royals who really can't stay away for anytime nearly as long. Not saying he is my first choice for President ('cos he is not, not even my 10th choice) but rather him than Queen Elizabeth or ANY Windsor for head of state.
BritishFlagBearer 1 year ago
@BritishFlagBearer
Hardly seen him? Are you living in a parallel universe? Practically every week since after he left office he's been in the news for one reason or another.
I don't like the Royals either, and see no point of them at all.
But, the current Royals didn't drag us into a Middle Eastern war because of now-totally discredited information.
That's a fact of which Blair deserves to be strung up a million times over, and it's a shame that it can't happen.
dcamaggots 1 year ago
@dcamaggots The state, (in the UK, its a kingdom and the head of state is the monarch, the Queen) is responsible and it is an evil royalist, fascist fantasy to blame the current PM only for problems with the notion that if only we had a different PM, yet kept the Queen, monarchy and kingdom, problems could have been avoided.
Not so. The kingdom and monarchy rigs the process whereby a Prime Minister is selected.
Yes Blair should have been sacked but by a democratically elected President.
BritishFlagBearer 1 year ago
@dcamaggots Also it is precisely the monarchies of the middle east like the Shah of Iran (who provoked the Iranian Islamic revolution) and the dictators like Saddam with all the powers of an absolute monarch which western conservatives supported, which have made war in the middle east inevitable and unavoidable.
It is a critical failure of political leadership to simply say - "oh I don't like royals, dictators, etc. but just leave them because we don't need war for democracy."
Yes we do.
BritishFlagBearer 1 year ago