Re: Re: The irrationality of national pride

Just a quick followup to CarlaSimian's video response.

Category:

People & Blogs

Tags:

• nationalism
• nationality
• hate
• arrogance
• america
• england
• britain
• france
• irrational
• flag
• pride

[claudevancack]

What infuriates me the most is how goverments preach humanitarian policy and left ideas and hold conventions for this, yet activly participate in keeping countries like Africa from modernisation. Holding them back effectively.

[nnocturne]

On this, I agree wholeheartedly, although in all honesty it is neither a question of nationalism nor one of territoriality. I fully support humanitarian aid but unless one is willing to consider the assisted nation as a partner, rather than a "cause", they will be kept back in perpetuity.

[claudevancack]

It is funny how we are "Human above all else" but yet have to "celibrate diversity" would there be any point for this give that we are all human? I am deeply aware of my own ethnicity, and find it an unjust reason why other people feel they have "superiority" my travels have taught me this also

[nnocturne]

I can understand your amusement because these two can be considered opposites. This is not how I intended it. Let's take for instance the issue of languages. As a species, we lose between 10 and 50 languages per year due to the sheer practicality of trade and international exchanges. Granted, it is a utopic battle (at linguistic level), but I wish to preserve both the pluralism of society and its individuality because it is this uniqueness that makes a society multicultural.

[claudevancack]

I view territory as important, as it is a key factor in nurturing the difference. Different cultures breed different minds, and without this, civilization will stagnate

[nnocturne]

As I stated in the video, I do not object to love for a culture, a people or a territory, but I do object to the elitism, apartheid and exclusivity that so often nationalism breeds in our societies.

[nnocturne]

(cont) Territory is odd. Looking at the United Kingdom, Scottish, Welsh and English cultures are different. In fact, even in England, Norfolk and Essex cultures are different. Yet, we all accept the pluralism of all these British cultures. Why? For political & historical reasons. I have no objection to the defence of Cornish identity, but British identity itself is simply too artificial because it is an artificial construct. What is British culture if not a blend of all its territorial cultures?

[lfc975]

There's nothing wrong with having national pride, god i'm so proud to be English.

[ByzantiniaRezurecti]

Europe will be a 3rd world Africanized/Islamized shithole in about 40 years.

Long gone will be all dribbling of "humanity" and "everyone's equal".

God when will we wake up.

[warrior350es]

interesting videos

[Luisrah]

There's only the problem of having national pride for a nation that sucks. (Not saying England does, but some do)

[BryanAJParry]

Nice vid, but I disagree that "all" countries are "equally fucked and equally good". :)

[MABUS01]

Thank you! I've been saying nationalism is stupid for a long time and no one seems to understand the direction I'm coming from. I absolutely agree with you. Nationalism separates us all. Great vid