Grover's Debate Response

Grover Norquist responds to the candidates' answers to his tax pledge question during the Republican CNN/YouTube debate.

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[lifelongfriendjeff]

Not only does Ron Paul vote against taxes but returns a portion of his budget to the treasury every year. Now that is a man who has the ability to run our nation. Go Dr. Paul and win!

[souixz]

I do not think I could support a candidate that would promise to not raise taxes. I am smart enough to know sometimes it is what has to be done to deal with a specfic problem. I trust Fred Thompson to make the right choice.

[sparkybob388]

The Koch brothers penned this tax payers pledge and finance this puppet to spread the pledge of communism.

[Whoo69]

We must abide by the old principle, "Everything in moderation", especially in politics. Politicians must not go too far in cutting or raising taxes. They must not go too far in protecting us or refusing to protect us. Guys like Norquist don't understand this. There are also some on the Left who are equally as guilty.

[Whoo69]

If you ask me, we should turn into a meritocracy.  I'm sick of having to vote for shitty candidates and the lesser of 2 evils! I'm sick of the worst bureaucrats leading our agencies. We need to have a system where you MUST have a good knowledge of history, statistics, policy, economics, and good education and test scores before you can run for office or serve in a bureaucracy. Because of that lack of accountability, we keep nominating worse and worse candidates. Gore, Kerry, and now Obama??

[Whoo69]

I think it's not even about principles or good policy with guys like Norquist. They just want an excuse to keep bitching. They don't wanna lose their jobs. Norquist is head of Americans for Tax Reform, and if Norquist and his cronies realized they're fighting a battle that's just not worth it, they'd have to disband their group and do something else. And I don't think Norquist is qualified for much else. Politics is one of the only fields where you don't have to be very qualified to serve.

[Whoo69]

I'm also sick of how these elitist Republican assholes and talk show hosts and heads of special interest groups claim to be speaking for all Americans, esp. when they kiss the asses of the rich. "The rich pay the most in taxes." Yeah, bozo, that may be true, but they can AFFORD to pay so much because it doesn't hurt them like it would hurt middle and lower-class individuals. They always ignore middle and low-class tax cuts in a person's platform and focus so much on the rich tax hikes.

[Whoo69]

We have some of the lowest personal incomes taxes in our history! Yet the Republicans and assholes like Norquist here say "That's not low enough." What IS low enough?? 20%? 10%? You won't even generate that much revenue, and we'll get higher deficits. Do these extremist tax-cutters think before they speak?

Norquist, give it up. We're not getting rid of the income tax, and it's not that big a deal, anyhow. Tax rate is fine. Most Americans are not board with you, so STFU.

[Whoo69]

Plus, why do you have to cling to your money so much like greedy motherfuckers? Just pay taxes and stop worrying! Sure, it'd be nice if the free market could cure poverty, but the fact is, it can't. It can't even raise nearly as much money to pay for antipoverty programs as the federal gov't can, so you're living in a dream world. Your tax dollars are going to be spent either way, so why not support antipoverty programs? They're really not all that inefficient. That's a myth.

[Whoo69]

The fact is, most Americans are moderate, not conservative or liberal. Each special interest group only has a relative handful of Americans who believe a certain way. They usually don't have even close to half of Americans in their ranks. Not even 20%, except for perhaps AARP.

[Whoo69]

You know, are there really any polls that say that most Americans are so against modest tax increases?? Sure, a lot of conservatives are, but I don't think most Americans feel the way these groups do with far-right positions on taxes, like Club for Growth and Americans for Tax Reform. Sometimes, you're gonna hafta raise taxes. That's the reality. You can't put your heads in the sand and say "No tax increases! ever!"

Just bear it. Deal w/ a slight tax increase and stop whining.

[bluetablepainting]

True charity has to come from the heart. The "widow's mite" was donated voluntarily. Taxes are taken by force. I would absolutely love to take the money I pay in taxes right now and be able to choose a charity for them.