G. Edward Griffin- On Individualism v Collectivism #1

PARTI 1 of 4 Interview of G. Edward Griffin on the meaning of individualsim vs. collectivism in the United States.

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[MrSammy1776]

He is correct.Its actually Oligarchical collectivism.George Orwell gave us the hint in the book 1984,with the name of the book that O'Brien gives Winston.When he rips the cover off and its actually called" Practice & theory of oligarchical collectivism" =feudalism /meaning slavery & death of people controlled Elite(billionaires not millionaires)Monarch's of England & Europe,Banking Elite/20 families that own all the fortune 100's.

Collectivism = socialism,communism,fascism,=f­eudalism/slavery

[anyusmoon1]

@MrSammy1776 My sentence was badly written... it should have clearly said that the founding documents intended to form a representative republic (based upon We the People approving/creating the enumerated powers uno) but have gradually been boiled into an oligarchy, a banking oligarchy. Presidents T. Jefferson and A. Jackson attempted to rid this country of that threat.

We need to do so again.

[wyrwich]

@RipTheSystem33 Social reality consists, ultimately, only of persons who choose and act. Collectives, such as a social class, state, or a group, cannot act so they are not considered to have a reality independent of the actions of persons.

[populusinformer]

nice article on this topic: (liberty-alliance(dot)net/word­press/?m=201111)

[RipTheSystem33]

The often argued, "groups don't really exist" fails to acknowledge that "individual" doesn't really exist either. Nothing exists in a vacuum. Rather, everything is relative to everything else, and existence is a "web" where everything affects everything else. "Individualism vs collectivism" is a false argument. Relativity is reality, and our society would be much better off if we abolished this primitive argument.

[getgot1]

@anyusmoon1 But don't have direct democracy (Switzerland does and they doing better), that a form of government controls policy, laws, and elects judges but we have Representatives for choosing those. I am glad that you recognize that we aren't a monarchy or a oligarchy, of course that's why we kicked the British crown out and that's were trying to corporate greed out of Washington.

[getgot1]

@anyusmoon1 Well at least you are agree that we are some how have a democracy. Your constitutional republic is actually based off the principles of classic liberalism which includes Checks and balances, liberty of individuals, 1st amendment rights, also a liberal democracy.

[anyusmoon1]

@getgot1 I'll chime in here at this time.... The answer is, no. We have a constitutional republic!

Technically there r only 3 forms of gov't... the only association the USofA has to 'democracy' is by default... We aren't a monarchy or oligarchy. Reality is we have become a banking oligarchy which grew tentacles into fascism where corporations directly access congress by lobbying. Congress COULD simply NOT entertain lobbyist (ex: Ron Paul) but many say outlaw lobbying. I say UPHOLD OATHS.