A neo-con on neoconservatism

British commentator Douglas Murray spoke at the Hudson Institute in August 2006 on "why neo-conservatism still matters" (his latest is book is similarly titled "Neo-Conservatism: Why We Need It") Here's the transcript of this video excerpt: Neo-conservatism is not a cabal or a party, but rather a sense, an instinct, a way of looking at the world. That way of looking at the world is in my definition a blend of idealism and realism. We look at the world as it is, but act in the world to make it as we would like it to be. This makes our instincts different than traditional conservatives, who often distrust social engineering projects or any form of alteration of a status quo they perpetually see as being an irreversible if often quietly enjoyable decline. And of course, it makes us different from modern day liberals who simply don't see the world as it is. I say that neo-cons look at the world through an idealist's eyes, but wear heavy and powerful glasses. We're moralists with good eye-sight. As such, I believe that neo-conservatism is the most valuable and indeed necessary political outlook of our time. I should point out here that I'm not terribly worried here about offending or alienating what you call liberals and I call socialists — people for whom in any case alienation-like self-flagellation seems to be a pleasure as well as a principle. But before offending conservatives any further, I would like to stress that I see old school conservatism not as wrong in itself, but largely, merely tactically wrong. As primarily an instinct and almost a non-philosophy, old-style conservatism today has, to my mind, two major flaws. The first is that conservatism relies on a noble sense of loyalty to the status quo, but the status quo, as we know in much of the West today, has changed, especially in western institutions and thanks to socialist interferes, they've largely changed very much for the worst. This being the case, the instinctive conservative is now often left trying to feel loyalty to a status quo that is not his status quo. That is, he's left trying to feel loyal to things which have not been loyal to him. I greatly sympathize with people caught in this dilemma. As an Anglican, I'm like many Anglicans today, left permanently caught between the desire to express loyalty to what one regards as a true faith, and at the same time, experiencing rage and bafflement at a church hierarchy which has thrown out the book of common prayer, the King James bible, and aspires, it often appears, to become like more than Greenpeace at prayer.

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[lector0003]

@Jeddie256 ~ Do you even know what fascism means? Or do you throw the word around, like "Nazis", because you think it makes you look clever?

[FukPosers]

@ladistar Wait wtf? Neo Conservatism is a shitbox ideology mixing the bad parts of liberalism with the bad parts of conservatism, I think you meant Libertarianism.

[Gray0450]

@lector0003 Yes neo conservatism is a watered down version of fascism in truest sense. Fascism is a corpratist, moralist ideology, and millitary agressive philosophy. The state uses force to bring about nationalism, moralism, and militaristic empire.

[miazagora]

Neoconservatism is EVIL!

[1337wafflezz]

NEOconservatism is a problem, not paleo-conservative beliefs. These neo cons are a detriment to Republican party and to civil liberties/Constitution.

They want expansive federal powers just as much as the progressives.

[TheFederalistVoice]

Murray entails the dilemma of modern conservatism. Act to change the status-quo, or act to defend the status-quo. Whether or not people here like neoconservatism, the problem with paleoconservatism and traditional conservatism is the adherence to the status-quo, which, in times of peace is fine, still doesn't gauge a plan for the future. This is why libertarianism gets a bad rap by conservatives, they're seeking change while traditional conservatives are not.

[MrJs1G]

@FukPosers

Cool, make claims without corroboration.

"I'm smarter than Einstein everybody!"

Do I get 9 thumbs up now?

[DouglasReding]

Given the choice between a liberal and a neoconservative, the LIBERAL is actually the lesser of two evils. Neoconservatism is FAR more dangerous than liberalism. I will never, ever, ever vote in any way that benefits a neoconservative candidate for any office.

[MrAntineocon]

There is no anti war left anymore. Most of the opposition to neocons comes from libertarians and paleocons on the right such as myself.

[shrapn0]

@MrAntineocon It's been an interesting discussion, but we may just need to agree to disagree. With the username "MrAntineocon" I doubt there is anything I could possibly say to you that would alter your dislike for this particularly unique view of international relations. I'm no neocon but I can safely say it is a fascinating ideology, especially as that since 2001 they have been doing the lefts work for them. This is my last comment so if you want the last word, feel free..