Dan and Dave Davenports lecture - Dan's 'S LePaul Spread'

Dan being very relaxed and cool, doing several pretty awesome Le Paul Spreads!

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[alexbenzo]

go tarvi you burnt that fool....dont know what as his problem i bet he is 40,alone,depressed and the closest he get to a women is pron lol

[Tarvi]

I appreciate your support man, but try not to be so insulting to him :P

He had/has his opinions which I have to accept as being valid, yet he didn't express them in the kindest of ways. We've all got to try not to treat opposition in the same way.

Cheers mate :-)

-Dave

[EssexBoy696969]

Your comments epitomise what I'd term 'magical masturbators' - a new wave of younger magi that think showing off by juggling with cards is entertainment when, in reality, you would not survive with this shit in the real World.

By the way, what do you consider a 'best selling' DVD? 'Best Selling' to magicians that practice in their bedroom is simple - the annals of conjuring are full of 'magicians' with drawers full of unused crap!

Take it like a man and accept criticism!

[Tarvi]

Criticism is not what you've offered me. You'll find plently of criticism on my other videos, but it's constructive. I find this insulting.

I've already given you the reasons why people can survive doing flourishing AND magic. No they're not the same, but no one ever has said they were. In fact, they NEED to be seperate, but there is a misinterpretation which seems to have formed where experienced and older magicians have connected the two.

Flourishing and Magic. They have.....

[Tarvi]

..two different names for two completely different concepts.

No one will get the same buzz when they see a flourish, compared to say.... two card monte, but they will look at a flourish and see eye candy. It's a different experience, and they two have to be carefully balanced if the performance is to be a good one. Usually people notice me "flicking" my cards around, and then ask to see some magic. I won't flourish during the performance, I try to keep the two seperate so they feel it's....

[Tarvi]

...magic not skill which is taking place.

I'm trying to let you know that we "magical masturbators" as you "criticisingly" put it, actually do think and worry about these aspects every time we practice and perform.

Yes, I've got a draw full of crap too, but I didn't travel to see the Bucks lecture live because it was a poor attempt at a DVD. Thousands of people use their material every day, be it magic or flourishes. I'm picking the most eminent magicians (who flourish too) as an example. :-)

[ROTINPIECES]

thats some nice anti faros there

[Eylexithymia]

@Essexboy696969 You must be really jealous that you can't do any finger flinging moves and all you say is that this particular art work isn't going to do any good in the real work, let me point something out, your YouTube name.. Hmm seems like you fuk other guys in the ass to survive in the real world. sik fuk.

[danfrost313]

As i just explained, spectators like to see it too.

And i hope you are not trying to debunk Paul Le Paul? Because he was one of the greatest entertainers to walk this planet.

I presume you perform table magic yes? Because the only time magic really does look 'magic' is when it is performed in a traditional style. If you are doing that on the streets, you need to get some edge mate.

My style is Psychological Delusion. Flourishing fits this persona very well.

[danfrost313]

Essexboy, pick up a few of Paul Le Pauls books. He saw it that flourishing is the perfect misdirection for performing a sleight which is harder to cover. For example, this spread pass. Im a performing magician (I.e. i perform at many functions and on the streets) and this has never been caught out.

Also, i use flourishes by Dan and Dave and also Daniel Madison, because people like to see it. I don't know how you percieve the leity, but you are wrong about them.