Here is the thing about you saying there is something wrong with the statement "You cannot be certain about anything", is not a lot of people word it that way. Most people talk about absolute truth when making this argument. This is also coupled with the argument that there are mistakes made in human perception. We cannot see anything as absolute truth, because our senses have limits. For example, color. People see color in many different ways. I can say that Orange is Tan, you say it is Orange.
@PostITnoteGUY, The key question is not whether we can trust our senses at all, but whether they are an adequate place on which to stand; e.g. axiom or presupposition for knowledge in general. Unfortunately, the argument against empiricism (the doctrine that all knowledge comes from sense perception) often gets mistaken as if it were an argument that we can't rely on our senses at all about anything.
@PostITnoteGUY , Bachelor and unmarried are *not* the same thing. There is a common element between the two terms, but it does not follow that the two terms are univocal. For example, is an unmarried woman a bachelor? No, she is a bachelorette. To give another argument along the same lines, how do you know that all squared have four sides? Is it possible that we might find a square some day without four sides? No. The only reason that one can know that all squares have four sides is because...
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Rebuttal? He appreciates correction, this is nothing more than a call for others to jump on the Band Wagon, he is inviting all to disprove that there is a reality outside of our experience, which of course we cant. So his initial claims to be not of a Platonist camp, well appearance reality distinction is exactly the platonic, oops I mean Platonic,,, exactally the Platonists beliefs about reality. Similar to the Kantian distinction of categories.
Here is the thing about you saying there is something wrong with the statement "You cannot be certain about anything", is not a lot of people word it that way. Most people talk about absolute truth when making this argument. This is also coupled with the argument that there are mistakes made in human perception. We cannot see anything as absolute truth, because our senses have limits. For example, color. People see color in many different ways. I can say that Orange is Tan, you say it is Orange.
DavidH373 9 months ago
Part three of a great lecture on philosophy, and what do I find? Multiple spam-marked posts and an interminable argument! T-t-t-triple thumbs up!
thinkdamnit 10 months ago
@PostITnoteGUY, The key question is not whether we can trust our senses at all, but whether they are an adequate place on which to stand; e.g. axiom or presupposition for knowledge in general. Unfortunately, the argument against empiricism (the doctrine that all knowledge comes from sense perception) often gets mistaken as if it were an argument that we can't rely on our senses at all about anything.
adriansrfr 1 year ago
@PostITnoteGUY , it is not dependent upon fallible sense perception.
adriansrfr 1 year ago
@PostITnoteGUY , Bachelor and unmarried are *not* the same thing. There is a common element between the two terms, but it does not follow that the two terms are univocal. For example, is an unmarried woman a bachelor? No, she is a bachelorette. To give another argument along the same lines, how do you know that all squared have four sides? Is it possible that we might find a square some day without four sides? No. The only reason that one can know that all squares have four sides is because...
adriansrfr 1 year ago
Dont listen to this idiot mjrockx but instead look on stefans website and you will see he has several books writtin covering this topics.
nevankeys01 2 years ago
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GOOD LUCK TO ALL THOSE WHO WOULD TRY AND GRASP OR MAKE SENSE OF THIS PLATONISTIC KANTIAN ANTIPRAGMATIC DUNG.
Bye now ;)
MJRockX 2 years ago
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OK I could spend the next 6 months. pulling the flaws out of this, but I do have better things to do with my time.
MJRockX 2 years ago
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Rebuttal? He appreciates correction, this is nothing more than a call for others to jump on the Band Wagon, he is inviting all to disprove that there is a reality outside of our experience, which of course we cant. So his initial claims to be not of a Platonist camp, well appearance reality distinction is exactly the platonic, oops I mean Platonic,,, exactally the Platonists beliefs about reality. Similar to the Kantian distinction of categories.
MJRockX 2 years ago
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It is beginning to lok as though he is using the same flawed logic over and over again to put forth an ajenda of some sort.
MJRockX 2 years ago