Chopin Opus 18 Walzer.mp4 弗雷德里克肖邦圓舞曲作品18

Chopins humorous waltz in thoughts to his time he spent in vienna. It´s a persiflage on vienna lifestyle where frédéric Chopin was not able to get the consitderation he wanted. Second time Vienna has been a great disillunsion for the young composer and musicain. Nobody wants to hear him, nobody wants to print his notes. So he did this wonderfull persiflage on viennas modern music in the early 19th. century: the waltz.
Martin Dalheimer would us make hearing Chopins laughing about vienna people who where not able to see the great genius of the young polish migrant.

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• Chopin
• Frédéric
• Walzer
• Opus 18
• waltz op. 18
• Broadwood
• Tafelklavier
• Square-piano
• historische Aufführungspraxis
• Martin Dalheimer
• Broadwood1830
• Hammerklavier
• 弗雷德里克肖邦圓舞曲作品18

[olipippocinque]

The sound of this Broadwood it is not ok !! The hammer are so hard!! Please change the skin ! A forte piano is not a Cymbalum !!!!

[broadwood1830]

@olipippocinque thank you very much, olivier, the piano really sounded too hard in this concert.the hammers sound harder than it is normal.the effect comes mostly from thr dry wood. the piano reacts to very cold winter (minus 10 grad), the recording takes lot away from the sound. but the character of my squarepiano is fundamentally brilliant, when i play, and i love it, i hope the audience too.

[broadwood1830]

hallo pianopera,

danke für deine intensive auseinandersetzung mit meiner interpretation. chopin hat ja tempowechsel bezeichnet. seine vorbilder liegen hier im alpenländischen. und dies kann ja auch einem aristokraten gefallen. der irrtum liegt in der selbstverstänlich implizierten ablehnung des derben dreiertaktes. dieses saftige dritte viertel links zu nehmen ist vielleicht schwieriger als das schnelle drüber rasen. die zugrunde liegende interpretation rachmaninoffs klingt nur bei diesem

[broadwood1830]

Dear pianopera, thank you for the compliments to Martins teacher. Yes indeed he is a pupil of the great Ernst Gröschel and let me tell you he was one of Mr. Gröschels most loved pupils. And yes, the waltz is not done on Martins best conditions. Now he can do it really wounderful. In about two weeks or so I will load up a better version.

Sabine

[PixieDollable]

Not sure I like this...the playing lacked phrasing, and although Chopin is NOTORIOUS for writing his music to played very rubato, this sounds like a correct tempo just couldn't be held. It was very harsh and kind of sloppy, esspecially on the runs and trills...the hands look very stiff and therefor it SOUNDS stiff. This is a VERY hard song to play, so I can appreciate the effort...

[PixieDollable]

@flugelmaniac I agree...and one of the MAIN charactersitics of Chopin is the use of rubato. Left and right hands don't even have to fall on same beat together, even if written like that. Now, Viennese waltz tempo is much different than standard waltz tempo, and that is paticular to the kind of dance. :)

[villakoecher]

I like exactly this version very much, as this interpretation was performed in public.

I can accentuate a poem when I read it in many ways, and without the authors own reading we'll never know which one is the correct one.

Same I feel happens when music is played, every pianist and the instrument as well give their hopefully personal impact on the interpretation.

So today we have a wide range of audible versions and regretfully I only miss these ones from the composers themselves. Regards

[flugelmaniac]

@broadwood1830 Dear Mr Dalheimer, my personal opinion is that waltzes CAN

have rubato and also accel or rit.............also different tempi for particular passages. These features can be found in Strauss waltzes and also Lehar....

two of the crowned kings of Viennese waltz tradition. My opinion is also that dancers enjoy these fluctuations from strict tempo, as it makes their dancing experience more rewarding. Perhaps if they were Automatons it would be all strict time!!?

[broadwood1830]

@pianopera So dear pianopera, thank you for your helpful critics, but your meaning that Chopin did waltzes for Art and not for dancing is wrong. Atrthur Schoonderwoerd writes in his CD about Chopin mazurken: "Ah, hwo wonderful it would been to be there! Frédéric Chopin ... arrived in Hotel Lambert.... Prince Czartoryski and his wife Anna were to lead the dance... After the initial bowing and curtseying, Chopin struck up his polonaise and the couples set off..." Chopin there played on an upright

[flugelmaniac]

@broadwood1830 ...Dear Mr Dalheimer, as you were a pupil of the very fine pianist Ernst Groschel and second generation pupil of the great Emile Von Sauer.....maybe it would be better to remove this particular recording and replace it with a new one later?.............by your own opinion it is not of your best.