Jack Nicklaus 14th hole approach 1986 Masters

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[cool193]

one word....

PURE!!!!

[shortstop20]

WOW, he pured that shot.

[MrDjc1970]

@emncaity Unbelievable...thx for info and reply mate.

[emncaity]

@Chris741113

Actually, I'm coming back here to post a revision to the Wie comment, because I just went to see a vid of her swing over the past few years, and man...it really is worse than I thought, when I'm watching her hit balls on the range. Her swing was absolutely genius when she first came out of Hawaii, before she got (I think) completely overinstructed and blitzed with too much information. It looks like position-to-position now too much of the time.

[emncaity]

@Chris741113

As for Wie, it's early, of course. Her swing is usually gorgeous _and_ effective; she beat hell out of everybody before she hit the tour, and it's not really her ballstriking that's been the problem since she's gotten there (if "problem" is the right word for a player who's doing just fine and has won already). On the other hand, if she falls far short of what seemed to be her initial talent level, maybe she'd serve as another example of the "pretty" swing that never reached #1.

[emncaity]

@Chris741113

...of all the players in the steel-shaft era, Snead's swing is the only "pretty" one among the all-time greatest players. So if the game is "golf"--getting the ball in the hole in the fewest strokes--then I'd say the standard ought to be whatever predominates as the most likely to do that.

[emncaity]

@Chris741113

Think of players like Hogan and Nelson, Palmer, Nicklaus, Trevino, Watson, Norman, Price, and even Woods. I would call those functionally beautiful swings, but not "beautiful" in the same way Snead, Littler, even guys like Purtzer and Littler had. But for the Hogan-Nicklaus group, I don't think you'd say that those guys had oddball swings like Furyk has. Point is, in every era, it hardly ever happens that the "prettiest" swing is the one that dominates. In fact... (ct'd)

[emncaity]

@Chris741113

Sorry I missed this before. Anyhow: It depends on what you mean by "beautiful." If you mean it the way I mean it when I put quotation marks around it, then you're referring to guys like Snead, Littler, Lou Graham, maybe even somebody like Couples. IMHO, it's the swing that produces the best results that is the most "beautiful," because functionality is everything. Now, when you bring Furyk into it, that's a little different...the exception that proves the rule. (ct'd)

[emncaity]

@CazHattrick11

Oh, sorry...ignore that. I didn't realize I'd already replied.

[emncaity]

@CazHattrick11

He actually talked about his eventual understanding of why the lift was good for him on the woods and long irons--it was because doing so allowed him to keep from developing too much hip tilt, which with his "centered" swing would've been almost guaranteed to give him a reverse pivot. Both he and Grout agreed that keeping the hips a little more level was critical in his swing.

[emncaity]

@MrDjc1970

You may have heard of MacGregor's experiment a few years ago when they brought an old Armour persimmon driver and some balata balls out in their tour van. Long and short of it is, only the very longest players got it out there even close to where Nicklaus used to with the same equipment. And that was with Jack _not_ coming out of his shoes. He has several drives on record in the 330-350+ range with that equipment. Thinking of him or Snead with the modern stuff...frightening.

[emncaity]

@kshoren05

It's a "dislike" because it's not Tiger, who clearly invented golf. (pause to retch)