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Uploaded by on Sep 30, 2009

From papal thrones, to papal tiaras, what the church has left behind for us to talk about. I made this religious debate video to get into your minds, give me and other youtubers your opinion..

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  • What a wonderful tradition of our Church, but we can not criticise any of the Popes for not following this tradition. Remember that Vatican II was started by John XXIII the successor of Peter through intervention of the Holy Spirit. Anyone who rejects Vatican II rejects Peter himself. Anyone who rejects Vatican II is not a Catholic.. So triple tiara or not, our Pope is the successor of Peter, and his duty is the same.. to guide and bring Catholics closer to the Light of Christ.

  • @frensarmiento Indeed. I never tried to say anything against , nor dare to reject my communion with the Holy Father.

  • @frensarmiento We Protestants maintain that true succession of the apostles does not come through some genealogical type lineage which has no purview in Scripture, nor in the writings of the Apostolic Fathers. True succession of the apostles is being faithful to what they taught. In this way, all true Christians can be successors of Peter or Paul, or whichever apostle one might favour. Does the R.C.C. show fidelity to their teachings? This video, unintentionally, answers that question.

  • @jlandles Well like you said, thats what PROTESTANTS believe not Catholics

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  • I really like the video. I do think we need to return these old but at the same time ALL of these traditional habits.

  • @codeman2008 Vatican 2 was a hijacking of the structures of the Catholic Church to promote Modernistic religious syncretism. Private message me for info on true Catholics.

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  • Well...have a loook into the Orthodoxe Ceremonial and youwill agree that our forced austerity in Occident is an elaborated plan to avilish our inner long for Beauty, the best moral defence againstspiritual decay....

  • Well...have a loook intoOrthodoxe Ceremonial and youwill agree that our forced austerity in Occident is an elaborated plan to avilish our inner long for Beauty, the best moral defence againstspiritual decay....

  • @271250cl BRAVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • Pre-Concile..Vatican II ?

    Splendor, Grace, Virtue, Knowledge, Life's Art.

  • We live in an age of ugliness and, since Vatican II, the Church has embraced that ugliness. It is time to revive some of the old traditions and it is good to see Pope Benedict's concern for the aesthetics of the Faith. Your video did not mention sacred music, which has suffered as much as ceremonial, architechture, vestments and the rest - in fact, my only criticism of your film is that it has a very inappropriate sound track. What has a string quartet got to do with the Church?

  • @frensarmiento What you have stated is utter ignorance of the Catholic faith. There have been instances in the past where Popes DID fall into heresy and lead the faithful astray. According to canon law it is your duty and right as a Catholic to object to any teaching that is not in accordance with Scripture and Church tradition. To think that a Pope cannot fall into heresy and is somehow immune to it is utterly false. A lay person however does not have the authority to depose a Pope.

  • @frensarmiento What you have stated is utter ignorance of the Catholic faith. There have been instances in the past where popes DID fall into heresy and lead the faithful astray. According to canon law it is your duty and right as a Catholic to object to any teaching that is not in accordance with Scripture and Church tradition. To think that a Pope cannot fall into heresy and is somehow immune to it is utterly false. A lay person however does not have the authority to depose a Pope.

  • @SonjaTalton My point is that the triple tiara is a non-essential, and that it makes no difference, one way or the other. The last several popes apparently agree with me.

  • And does anyone really think that St. Peter wore a triple tiara?

  • The Pope who brought about Vatican II specifically involved at the very highest levels of debate protestant ministers and theologians. Why?

    NB Serious question.

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