Terence Mckenna - 5-MeO-DMT & nnDMT

A clip I borrowed from Lorenzo's Psychedelic Salon (link to podcast)
http://www.matrixmasters.net/blogs/
(permalink to specific episode)
http://www.matrixmasters.net/blogs/?p=1304

This clip is taken from a talk titled "The Ethnobotany of Shamanism". In this clip Terence gives us HIS take on the difference between 5-MeO-DMT and nnDMT and his preference for nnDMT. I beg to differ! silly old terence...

A Comparison of dosage/potency for 5-MeO-DMT and nnDMT can be found on these two pages:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/5meo_dmt/5meo_dmt_dose.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_dose.shtml

Some people do not prefer 5-MeO-DMT, I imagine this has to do with the ego death aspect of it. It cuts through all the veils and takes you to THE CORE. nn tends to not have the ability to excel one beyond the temporal illusory realms. You are still dimensionally bound with nn as far as all my several trips go. With MeO, it is a WHOLE different story. I tell folks, if you want beings and higher dimensions go NN, if you want to actually BE, ALL beings and ALL dimensions with a heavy download of why's and how's, go 5-MeO. Its surely not for anyone who wants to hold onto their BS for long.(Belief Systems)
As far as my personal preference goes, I think they were meant to compliment one another. I have yet to have the opportunity to do any seriously extensive work with nnDMT, only 14 years of 5-MeO practice, so I tend to suspend my judgment on the matter, but my intuition tells me they are mother and father, great on their own, but the potential of both in a spiritual symbiosis may be exactly what the shaman ordered. It would be quite interesting and I'm sure quite fruitful, to spend an evening with a couple of nice piles of both molecules, and alternate smoking them to see what may be learned of this hypothesized symbiosis.

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[simplejack69]

question: so ive been waiting for a while to find dmt. its been on my brain for quite sumtime. and i just found where to get 5meo dmt but not nndmt. and i would prefer nn just for the reason that ive been reading about it in The Spirit Molecule and that is what he uses for his experiments. is there a major difference between the two or should i just take the 5meo?

[lysergicaddict]

@simplejack69 I prefer the 5meoDMT. Do not pas up the opportunity. IMO, nn can hardly be compared to 5-meo. 5meoDMT is the most mystical sacrament I have ever encountered by far.

The major difference for me, is ego death and full blown mystical experience %100 of the time with 5meoDMT.

Make sure to check erowid for dasage as 5meoDMT is at least 4x as potent as nnDMT..

IMO, its like comparing apples to psychedelic mushrooms. 5MeODMT being the mushrooms of course.

[TheLusseyran]

@FunemploymentCrew no offence, but I can tell you have never had a psychedelic experience...therefore you are trying to understand something beyound your level of understaning and experience.

Its like trying to explain to a person blind from birth what it is like to see, you cant really, and the blind person can never really understand what he has never experienced.

Ego death is not a hallucination, and when it happens to you, you know it is a real experience

[foresakenlion]

DMT causes you to dream while you're awake, which would make it more real than reality, because you're melding your unconscious mind and conscious mind into a unified mind, the ego and the superego fusing into one instead of being two, I may be wrong but this is how I see it from hearing experiences.

[LeafFreedom]

@92451721921892113 by the way I'm potemtole

[LeafFreedom]

@92451721921892113 ` Yes my problem being I have witnessed a few of the other dimensions beyond the third. I have seen more than you will know in your entire life in a few fleeting moments of my life. I feel sorry for you sir because you will never know the ecstasy I have experienced and the worlds and things that I have gazed upon. I feel sorry for you because you will never know anything beyond what your parents tell you. So when you wish to have a conversation try again.

[JNathanK2011]

The entities on mushrooms communicated a lot of electronic type music to me. It sounded really good, whatever it was.

[ssssaintmarcus]

@Potemtole that was so articulate and beautiful i immensely enjoyed reading it. thank u for that :D

[ssssaintmarcus]

@lysergicaddict Terence was an enlightened PROPHET and a SCHOLAR also....he was a humble genius n spiritual giant n i strive to b like him on a daily basis. He is right up there on my list of greatest people that have ever graced this earth...his Stoned Ape Theory n general philosophical n metaphysical analysis of reality astonishes my intellect in the most amazing of ways. y would ppl come here n post stupid shit like this if they hate him? i do not get it....Prob paid corporate whore/trolls

[ssssaintmarcus]

@FunemploymentCrew ur insane...y don't u do DMT jackass. then u will noe the truth.

[ssssaintmarcus]

@lysergicaddict i have heard of the outer space one...but i didn't noe if it would b awesome. I have read the Spirit Molecule :) i read it in like 3 days....I couldn't put it down. Thank you for this video and ur insight my brother. Peace and Prosperity to u and ur fam

[BeeRocket2010]

I swear this drug takes me to a place where i am almost moments away from finding out what i am, where i come from, what life is about and the possibilities of where i may go when my body dies is just endless and infact unimaginable. If we as humans have spirits then Maybe this drug just changes a cell energy allowing part of the spirit to trully detatch itself from the body so it sees what our bodies simply cannot! I was out there for months, but on the floor for 15mins

[FletcherHabit]

@lysergicaddict Whats a good plant source for 5-meo dmt? chaliponga?