Jacoby-Shermer debate, 2/10

I can't believe that someone with a "Dr." in front of his name can't see that looking back at how inprobable an event is AFTER it happened tells you nothing. Just because the chance to win in the lottery is small doesn't mean noone ever wins it.

Hes such a missinformed noob.. but lets grant him that scientists believe nothing made something.. How did your god come about? ... oh well hes outside of nature.. blabla fuck you.

there was no explotion, no sound there was no air, jacoby needs to do his homwork

Religions are entitled to as much criticism as anything else. Why they should have some ingrained respect given to them is beyond me.

You are the ones believing in something which by its very nature would want you to discard any rational thoughts about the way the world works and completely ignore science. Religion and Science are both by their very nature completely incompatible. To say otherwise is completely "ignorant, stupid, needy, retarded" (delete as appopriate).

Out of courtesy I am having a few specials today: I'm a big fan of "Nazi Germany was a Christian nation perfectly situated for the holocaust," "how Christianity was derived from pre-existing pagan religions and how the early founders knew thins," "the strong correlation between Christianity and divorce, sexual deviancy, and serial killers" - I'm an expert in all three....I'm ready when you are - no name calling and tons of evidence to boot

The non-religious don't supply evidence? For what? Get me started I'm ready to go - evolution? contradictions in the Bible? the fact that we don't get our morality from "Judeo-Christian values"? separation of Church and state? I'm excited.....you start and I'll supply completely free of name calling too; I won't even charge extra

"What I like the best about people that insult based on religion is they always go for personal insults. They never present concrete fact. Ever."

Here is a list of "good Christian names" slung at Thomas Paine: Judas, reptile, hog, mad dog, souse, louse, archbeast, brute, liar, infidel"

Mike Huckabee recently referred to atheists (as a group) as narcissists

Do you want me to send you my hate mail from Christians or should I direct you to Richard Dawkin's hate mail from Christians?

My biggest problem with the "life sitting on a knife's edge ergo God did it" argument is that it represents the complete antithesis of design. Did God not make the laws that would cause our destruction? (either side of the knife's edge) - if you understand the law of large numbers then our existence appears to be part of a completely random universe - that of a "blind watchmaker" ...there are too many riddles and unnecessary parts to make it design. Why rest your design on a knife's edge?

3 Matthew 7:12 - very nice verse....unfortunately Jesus was a little late; Confucius, Lao Tse, Buddha, and about half a dozen ancient Greek and Roman philosophers had said it already centuries earlier - but don't worry, Jesus did bring something completely original to him - eternal hell: before him shoal and hades were the underworld but were not eternal places of damnation, what say you Jesus:

"Think not that I come to bring peace to earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword"

Matthew 10:34

To follow in DeusMerdaeEst's path - 1. Morality is innate: look to nature; the animal kingdom has no religion and yet they develop their own moral codes and have organized families - how could that be? human beings also display similar moral characteristics with/without religion or despite differences in religion
2. If you do not think that God is a dictator - you have not read the Old Testament nor do you understand "sins of the father" as an ideological concept