2009 Northern Trust Open, Wednesday pro am,1st tee par 5 Every pro hit driver except this guy right here..hybrid..right down the fairway over 300yds.. COngrats Dustin for your recent win at Pebble pro am..
he uses a hybrid off the tee here so he only outdrives his amateur partner by 40 and saves him some embarrassment, yet still stays just short of the bunker 265 out. it's the classy thing to do. his real play is driver 320 off the tee then 4 iron 225 in.
he can have such a bowed wrist like that because he has such a fast unwind of the hips, he also has a low ball flight because he holds off the release big time
Again, though, Johnson seems like a decent guy who's put all that garbage behind him, and I hope he has. I just think to accept that kind of background as some kind of new norm is a sad commentary, as sad as not caring whether Kobe Bryant was a rapist or merely an adulterer who bought off his wife--simply because he's a spectacular give-me-the-ball kind of player.
Obviously it's your business how you take the game. I just think you're missing a lot of the value of it when you see it framed as just another pro sport, which is too bad. Tradition simply for tradition's sake is empty, but substantively, honesty, decency, sportsmanship, and self-discipline aren't such bad things in an age where the best player in the world can't manage to stop cursing on camera or have enough self-control to stop betraying and humiliating his wife and children.
What the hell does "age" have to do with it? If you think there aren't younger players who are being brought up in the best traditions of the game--the ones that promote rigorous self-control, honesty, sportsmanship, dealing well with losses and imperfections, etc.--you're mistaken. You can call that stuff "preset behavioral norms/expectations" if you want, as if that's a bad thing, but it made for a lot of players with character who acted like adults.
@emncaity ...and thats what separates you and I; age. I never was one for tradition and "old school" habits. To you, it's a gentleman's game filled with preset behavioral norms/expectations. To me....it's just golf.
No problem. Nobody seems to have any legitimate dispute over his version of it--that he was intimidated into it, was in the getaway car during the break-in, and had no real intention to participate in a killing. But still...can you even imagine a Nicklaus or a Watson being involved in crap like this? It's not like gangs and burglary and juvenile delinquency didn't exist then. It's just that it wasn't considered sort of mainstream fun to have one foot in the thug world.
However, having said that, he is clearly "a good golfer"--and not only a good one, but one who seems to be pounding on the door of the majors. It's not like I think he must be a terrible person. It's my impression that he's not, and I wish him well as a very talented player. But I do think it matters who you are, and for sure it matters in this game--maybe not for those who came to it as a pro sports fan, but for those who grew up in the best of its traditions, yeah.
You're also creating the typical false dichotomy between athletes as "role models" versus parents. I know of literally nobody who says athletes ought to take the place of parents in a kid's life, with regard to moral and ethical standards. There's a second, but implied, false dichotomy between an athlete being a "role model" in some pristine or holy manner, versus an athlete simply being a decent human being. And anyway, I'm not really talking about some direct "modeling" for kids.
buh-bang
MrGmacfan 4 days ago
@bensteeley i wouldn't say that's why he hits it so far. i would say thats more to do with his strength, flexibility and speed of the hips
themothmanreturns 1 month ago
@ngatins24 it is one of the flattest which is why he hits it so far
bensteeley 1 month ago
that was raped
bensteeley 1 month ago
would be better if we could see the ball
MRCOOLIO5689 1 month ago
@001zach I'm just saying that would most likely be his miss because of his wrist angle.
zZrEtRiBuTiOnZz 3 months ago
@WestBromSte For real. More like "duck hooked it", lol.
zZrEtRiBuTiOnZz 4 months ago
he uses a hybrid off the tee here so he only outdrives his amateur partner by 40 and saves him some embarrassment, yet still stays just short of the bunker 265 out. it's the classy thing to do. his real play is driver 320 off the tee then 4 iron 225 in.
dschultz6072 4 months ago
@bensteeley He actually has one of the highest ball flights on tour.
ngatins24 4 months ago
he can have such a bowed wrist like that because he has such a fast unwind of the hips, he also has a low ball flight because he holds off the release big time
bensteeley 4 months ago
listen to that strike
bensteeley 4 months ago
@roycesboy
lol dustin has probably never hit a slice in his life
WestBromSte 4 months ago
sliced it
roycesboy 5 months ago
@rrsrichardcheney then why are you watching a video about it
TheGolfGoof 5 months ago
best sound ever
ddelehanty91 6 months ago
@rrsrichardcheney go back to world of warcraft and stopping trolling.
ls1eater 7 months ago
God, I love his swing
MrStamps10 7 months ago
Clobbered that hybrid! DAMN
rockbandnerd100 7 months ago
@remmy100
Again, though, Johnson seems like a decent guy who's put all that garbage behind him, and I hope he has. I just think to accept that kind of background as some kind of new norm is a sad commentary, as sad as not caring whether Kobe Bryant was a rapist or merely an adulterer who bought off his wife--simply because he's a spectacular give-me-the-ball kind of player.
emncaity 8 months ago
@remmy100
Obviously it's your business how you take the game. I just think you're missing a lot of the value of it when you see it framed as just another pro sport, which is too bad. Tradition simply for tradition's sake is empty, but substantively, honesty, decency, sportsmanship, and self-discipline aren't such bad things in an age where the best player in the world can't manage to stop cursing on camera or have enough self-control to stop betraying and humiliating his wife and children.
emncaity 8 months ago
@remmy100
What the hell does "age" have to do with it? If you think there aren't younger players who are being brought up in the best traditions of the game--the ones that promote rigorous self-control, honesty, sportsmanship, dealing well with losses and imperfections, etc.--you're mistaken. You can call that stuff "preset behavioral norms/expectations" if you want, as if that's a bad thing, but it made for a lot of players with character who acted like adults.
emncaity 8 months ago
@emncaity ...and thats what separates you and I; age. I never was one for tradition and "old school" habits. To you, it's a gentleman's game filled with preset behavioral norms/expectations. To me....it's just golf.
remmy100 8 months ago
@tonybonez
No problem. Nobody seems to have any legitimate dispute over his version of it--that he was intimidated into it, was in the getaway car during the break-in, and had no real intention to participate in a killing. But still...can you even imagine a Nicklaus or a Watson being involved in crap like this? It's not like gangs and burglary and juvenile delinquency didn't exist then. It's just that it wasn't considered sort of mainstream fun to have one foot in the thug world.
emncaity 8 months ago
@remmy100
However, having said that, he is clearly "a good golfer"--and not only a good one, but one who seems to be pounding on the door of the majors. It's not like I think he must be a terrible person. It's my impression that he's not, and I wish him well as a very talented player. But I do think it matters who you are, and for sure it matters in this game--maybe not for those who came to it as a pro sports fan, but for those who grew up in the best of its traditions, yeah.
emncaity 8 months ago
@remmy100
You're also creating the typical false dichotomy between athletes as "role models" versus parents. I know of literally nobody who says athletes ought to take the place of parents in a kid's life, with regard to moral and ethical standards. There's a second, but implied, false dichotomy between an athlete being a "role model" in some pristine or holy manner, versus an athlete simply being a decent human being. And anyway, I'm not really talking about some direct "modeling" for kids.
emncaity 8 months ago