PZ Myers' lecture at the Atheist Alliance International 2009 conference in Burbank, CA. Watch this YouTube channel for many more talks from the conference.
@isaq1961 Seriously? The eye? Why do you think an eye cant evolve? It isn't that complicated & has happened multiple times. We also have current living examples of virtually all stages of eye development. Complex organs don't just mutate into an eye all at once. They slowly evolve. The eye starts as light sensitive cells & every change that helps the organism see light better gets passed on until we get full eyes. If god made eyes why didn't he give humans the best eyes of all the animals?
What a waste of time having shallow atheists argue against shallow creationism! What a false dichotomy! Design v. Chance is nonsense. Either there is order, or no order. There is order. Either order itself has purpose, or no purpose. Science relies on order to map order. Science cannot test for the purpose-value of order. So this entire culture of "new atheism" or "naturalism" pitted against shallow creationism is of no significance at all and a waste of time and effort. It's ridiculous and sad.
Obviously you can't deny the maker of a sony Camera. If I tell you that all these juice bottles or cook, Pepsi cans have been made by chance, you'd say I am crazy. Now can you tell me who made, designed and sorted the apples, tomatoes, potatoes, grapes etc.? Let's give another example, when you see a sony camera, you cannot deny its maker, man. Now look at your own body's camera, your eyes? Who made and desigend your eyes, your bodyily organs? The creator, the Almighty God.
Whenever you go to a grocery store, you'll see two type of products, one is natural such as fruits, vegetables , and the other one is man made, such as juice, cold drinks, cake, pizza etc. The natural products are made out of the soil and water by the help of the sun rays, and man made products are made out of natural products. When you see the man made products that they are designed in different shapes and sorted in different packages, now can you deny the existence of their maker, humans?
@isaq1961 Seriously? The eye? Why do you think an eye cant evolve? It isn't that complicated & has happened multiple times. We also have current living examples of virtually all stages of eye development. Complex organs don't just mutate into an eye all at once. They slowly evolve. The eye starts as light sensitive cells & every change that helps the organism see light better gets passed on until we get full eyes. If god made eyes why didn't he give humans the best eyes of all the animals?
shananagans5 3 hours ago
What a waste of time having shallow atheists argue against shallow creationism! What a false dichotomy! Design v. Chance is nonsense. Either there is order, or no order. There is order. Either order itself has purpose, or no purpose. Science relies on order to map order. Science cannot test for the purpose-value of order. So this entire culture of "new atheism" or "naturalism" pitted against shallow creationism is of no significance at all and a waste of time and effort. It's ridiculous and sad.
MisterAdamWayne 2 days ago
@isaq1961 How's freshman year of high school treating you?
YOB1776 1 week ago
@isaq1961 If you buy some honey in your grocery store... do you consider that to be natural?
Why would you treat something that bees make different to something that man makes?
MsPerduta 1 week ago
Obviously you can't deny the maker of a sony Camera. If I tell you that all these juice bottles or cook, Pepsi cans have been made by chance, you'd say I am crazy. Now can you tell me who made, designed and sorted the apples, tomatoes, potatoes, grapes etc.? Let's give another example, when you see a sony camera, you cannot deny its maker, man. Now look at your own body's camera, your eyes? Who made and desigend your eyes, your bodyily organs? The creator, the Almighty God.
isaq1961 1 week ago
Whenever you go to a grocery store, you'll see two type of products, one is natural such as fruits, vegetables , and the other one is man made, such as juice, cold drinks, cake, pizza etc. The natural products are made out of the soil and water by the help of the sun rays, and man made products are made out of natural products. When you see the man made products that they are designed in different shapes and sorted in different packages, now can you deny the existence of their maker, humans?
isaq1961 1 week ago
@cararacs what do you mean?
chromeninjar3d 2 weeks ago
@chromeninjar3d Then you must really think badly when it comes to creationist.
cararacs 2 weeks ago
I wish more professors were sarcastically funny.
cararacs 2 weeks ago
This PZ meyers is so vulnerable. His words are like targets to shoot down.
chromeninjar3d 1 month ago