@ROBdeLIS I am afraid I agree with Rob. The reason they cite celebrity endorsements is so the can get more customers. A high end shop doesn't need this and can thrive on word of mouth from satisfied and exclusive clients. If G&H becomes a place where every Tom, Dick & Harry willing to max out their credit card can get a suit just because Beckham shops there, then shopping there would be the same as shopping at a Wal-Mart or a Target, so why bother? Exclusivity MUST be maintained.
Gieves & Hawkes marks the wearer as a parvenu. Why would anyone with money wear G & H when they could just as easily wear something with style from Ede & Ravenscroft?
I have had two suits made by them (very pricey) and 5 years later we are still struggling to get these things to fit properly. There customer service is actually quite good but I think some of the tailors have a mind of their own and this could be why the suits aren't fitting. Hopefully with the next visit they will finally fit well, I am hoping.
I bought a few suits from them here in the U.S. several years ago from a merchant which carried their brand. I will say that it is a beautiful design to this day, however, their customer service is sorely lacking as it has been over a month and I have not heard a word from them regarding additions I want to make to my wardrobe (emailed the merchant). With a plethora of other fine tailors available why would I buy from them again? Pity with all that classical music playing in the back..Cheerio!
@easye1973 What's wrong with saying that they're lower class? It's not a pejorative term.
No one is saying that Gieves should pick and choose its customers, but if it wants to continue to pretend to be an elite tailor, it should be discrete.
@easye1973 "Lower class" isn't an insult, it is what it is. Lower class people tend not to be knowledgeable or experienced when it comes to formal, semi-formal and casual wear, traditionally defined. Jackson may well have been the best Western musician of the late 20th century, and Beckham may be the best footballer. Their financial success is a testament to their ability to buy anything, but not to make an educated decision.
@easye1973 Clothes are one of the few things that separate pretentious cunts from members of the lower orders who have managed to slither their towards respectability. Boarding schools teach more than sodomy and show tunes; learning what to wear and how to eat takes dedication and effort.
My concern with Gieves is that they would rather market their product to parvenus on the basis of their celebrity status rather than rely on the quality of their tailoring.
I'm glad they're indiscreet enough to show off former customers; I've always wondered who'd buy from Gieves when so many great tailors who specialized in bespoke and don't bother with off-the-rack are just meters away.
Chaplin - born lower class.
Jackson - born lower class.
Clinton - middle class, always slovenly.
William - basically on the dole; probably got the jacket for free.
Beckham - born lower class.
Diana - Fucked the Prince of Wales and then died in a car accident.
@ROBdeLIS I am afraid I agree with Rob. The reason they cite celebrity endorsements is so the can get more customers. A high end shop doesn't need this and can thrive on word of mouth from satisfied and exclusive clients. If G&H becomes a place where every Tom, Dick & Harry willing to max out their credit card can get a suit just because Beckham shops there, then shopping there would be the same as shopping at a Wal-Mart or a Target, so why bother? Exclusivity MUST be maintained.
NovusOrbisDecretum 1 week ago
Gieves & Hawkes marks the wearer as a parvenu. Why would anyone with money wear G & H when they could just as easily wear something with style from Ede & Ravenscroft?
mangore623 2 months ago
I have had two suits made by them (very pricey) and 5 years later we are still struggling to get these things to fit properly. There customer service is actually quite good but I think some of the tailors have a mind of their own and this could be why the suits aren't fitting. Hopefully with the next visit they will finally fit well, I am hoping.
chuckbuckbobuck 9 months ago
I bought a few suits from them here in the U.S. several years ago from a merchant which carried their brand. I will say that it is a beautiful design to this day, however, their customer service is sorely lacking as it has been over a month and I have not heard a word from them regarding additions I want to make to my wardrobe (emailed the merchant). With a plethora of other fine tailors available why would I buy from them again? Pity with all that classical music playing in the back..Cheerio!
xXxValiant1xXx 1 year ago
@easye1973 What's wrong with saying that they're lower class? It's not a pejorative term.
No one is saying that Gieves should pick and choose its customers, but if it wants to continue to pretend to be an elite tailor, it should be discrete.
ROBdeLIS 1 year ago
@easye1973 "Lower class" isn't an insult, it is what it is. Lower class people tend not to be knowledgeable or experienced when it comes to formal, semi-formal and casual wear, traditionally defined. Jackson may well have been the best Western musician of the late 20th century, and Beckham may be the best footballer. Their financial success is a testament to their ability to buy anything, but not to make an educated decision.
ROBdeLIS 1 year ago
@easye1973 I've nothing against the lower class, I simply wouldn't turn to them for advice on how to dress like an aristocrat.
ROBdeLIS 1 year ago
@easye1973 Clothes are one of the few things that separate pretentious cunts from members of the lower orders who have managed to slither their towards respectability. Boarding schools teach more than sodomy and show tunes; learning what to wear and how to eat takes dedication and effort.
My concern with Gieves is that they would rather market their product to parvenus on the basis of their celebrity status rather than rely on the quality of their tailoring.
ROBdeLIS 1 year ago
@ROBdeLIS. You, sir, are a delight.
cast4321 1 year ago
I'm glad they're indiscreet enough to show off former customers; I've always wondered who'd buy from Gieves when so many great tailors who specialized in bespoke and don't bother with off-the-rack are just meters away.
Chaplin - born lower class.
Jackson - born lower class.
Clinton - middle class, always slovenly.
William - basically on the dole; probably got the jacket for free.
Beckham - born lower class.
Diana - Fucked the Prince of Wales and then died in a car accident.
Very reputable.
ROBdeLIS 1 year ago