@monkfg I think your on the right track. The old yang taiji taught by yang shou hou was pretty much combat every lesson which is why students didnt like training with him . Erle montaigue learnt this style and his videos are worth watching . His school on the gold coast also had wiseforce chinese boxing which is pretty much learning to fight by getting in there and getting hit. check out the clips on youtube - wiseforce boxing . Train hard and good luck
@monkfg email me or friend me on here if you would like to talk on occasion,i also am interested in bringing MMA and Nei Jia together(along with Aikijujutsu,also internal)of course it is funny that so much of it blurs at the highest levels,but for the most part there are distinctions between non traditional arts and traditional ones.Hope to hear from you.
Mr. Cui Ruibin was a shuai jiao practiotioner before he started studying Yi quan from Mr. Yao zungxun and he teaches it to his students that go for san da tournaments.
"...jogging, speed running, excercises with a skipping rope, climbing mountains, push-ups, punching the air and hitting sandbags." = Marvin Hagler's training regimen. Wang knew. Seems to me, that Yiquan is dirty boxing...and dirty boxing wins over any martial art most of the time. It encompasses throwing, tripping, biting, head-butting, low kicking, grabbing, pulling and short burst punches in close quarters. Master Wang is saying don't fight nature I believe.
In authentic and complete internal arts training, it is already "MMA" because there is wrestling, stand up and all kinds of sensitivity drills. MMA is not a style, its watered down traditional arts designed with sport rules in mind. Exchange of hits and blocks is expected. Any training in a serious traditional style will help you in the ring, but of course you must train for ring sports if you plan to fight that way, a pure traditional only fighter will usually have trouble in the ring.
The body-wholeness you also learn in Tai Chi could be very useful, but your average Tai Chi master and tai chi practitioner doesn't spar.
I am trying to bring Tai Chi into MMA and it works. I simply try to keep a still mind and have no thoughts while different kinds of sparring. I try to absorb as much force passively as possible and try to "root" my punches and kicks. I only practice MMA once a week, but a lot of Tai Chi and I'm better than a lot of people that have far more training in MMA.
I wish we could see top yi chuan guys against top boxers, movements so similar but philosophy and application so different. Would be interesting. I think Yi chuan mixed with shuai jiao (wrestling) has the potential to be one of the very best systems of all.
God this is SO bad.
MartialSkeptic 22 hours ago
@monkfg I think your on the right track. The old yang taiji taught by yang shou hou was pretty much combat every lesson which is why students didnt like training with him . Erle montaigue learnt this style and his videos are worth watching . His school on the gold coast also had wiseforce chinese boxing which is pretty much learning to fight by getting in there and getting hit. check out the clips on youtube - wiseforce boxing . Train hard and good luck
pendragonfilm 4 months ago
@monkfg email me or friend me on here if you would like to talk on occasion,i also am interested in bringing MMA and Nei Jia together(along with Aikijujutsu,also internal)of course it is funny that so much of it blurs at the highest levels,but for the most part there are distinctions between non traditional arts and traditional ones.Hope to hear from you.
BushiBato 5 months ago
@7Matahari7
Mr. Cui Ruibin was a shuai jiao practiotioner before he started studying Yi quan from Mr. Yao zungxun and he teaches it to his students that go for san da tournaments.
razsecret 1 year ago
"...jogging, speed running, excercises with a skipping rope, climbing mountains, push-ups, punching the air and hitting sandbags." = Marvin Hagler's training regimen. Wang knew. Seems to me, that Yiquan is dirty boxing...and dirty boxing wins over any martial art most of the time. It encompasses throwing, tripping, biting, head-butting, low kicking, grabbing, pulling and short burst punches in close quarters. Master Wang is saying don't fight nature I believe.
blueprophet9 1 year ago
In authentic and complete internal arts training, it is already "MMA" because there is wrestling, stand up and all kinds of sensitivity drills. MMA is not a style, its watered down traditional arts designed with sport rules in mind. Exchange of hits and blocks is expected. Any training in a serious traditional style will help you in the ring, but of course you must train for ring sports if you plan to fight that way, a pure traditional only fighter will usually have trouble in the ring.
7Matahari7 2 years ago
The body-wholeness you also learn in Tai Chi could be very useful, but your average Tai Chi master and tai chi practitioner doesn't spar.
I am trying to bring Tai Chi into MMA and it works. I simply try to keep a still mind and have no thoughts while different kinds of sparring. I try to absorb as much force passively as possible and try to "root" my punches and kicks. I only practice MMA once a week, but a lot of Tai Chi and I'm better than a lot of people that have far more training in MMA.
monkfg 2 years ago
I wish we could see top yi chuan guys against top boxers, movements so similar but philosophy and application so different. Would be interesting. I think Yi chuan mixed with shuai jiao (wrestling) has the potential to be one of the very best systems of all.
7Matahari7 2 years ago
wow, real light sparring.
i'd like to see this against ther styles
monkfg 2 years ago