Hitler's Pope (by John Cornwell) Pt.2

John Cornwell on Hitler's Pope
Broadcast Date: Oct. 8, 1999
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From the CBC "Historian John Cornwell has become a lightning rod for controversy with the publication of Hitler's Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII in 1999. Soon after its publication, Cornwell appears on Hot Type to explain the hullabaloo over Hitler's Pope and assess the spotty record of the 20th century's most controversial pontiff.
Hot Type: John Cornwell on Hitler's Pope

• In his autobiography entitled Seminary Boy, John Cornwell recalls running with young thugs in London's East End. But he later became a devout altar boy and studied to enter the priesthood.

John Cornwell on Hitler's Pope

• In his autobiography entitled Seminary Boy, John Cornwell recalls running with young thugs in London's East End. But he later became a devout altar boy and studied to enter the priesthood.

• The Vatican gave Cornwell access to secret documents so he could disprove rumors of Pius XII's collusion with the Nazis, but instead, these papers only confirmed evidence of such claims.

• Despite damning allegations made against him, Pope Pius XII was declared "venerable" - a posthumous recognition of virtue - in September 2000, putting him one step closer to official sainthood. He must next be declared "beatified" (blessed), a title bestowed only on martyrs or those who have performed miracles."

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[19lfm12]

As Pacelli was the Nuncio to Germany, he was not ignorant of who Hitler & his party were - nor of the designs of the Catholic Center Party.

Pacelli may have been delusional & able to rationalize his way out of his own moral failings in re the Nazis & the Jews.....but he was not a moron!

Pathetic claims that he saved some small fraction of the Jewish population, even if true, do not erase his moral culpability for helping to enable the Shoah.

[AppleSouffle]

In light of the fact that Pope Pius the 12th willfully stood by while millions of Jews, plus gypsies, homosexuals and others were being murdered, it's galling to see so many comments from people who are saying he did what he could.

He was callous to all those murders. One third of Nazis were Catholic. He could have done so much, but he did nothing until the Germans were on the verge of invading Italy.

He deserves to be vilified, not beatified.

[sbreathnach100]

Indeed, if one compares from the Universal Church's viewpoint the function of the Protocols of Zion as forgery, one finds a strong similarity with it and the function of the 'Donatus Constantini', which was a proven Vatican forgery. . . The 'Donatus Laudabiliter', is to my mind a further Vatican forgery that engendered unnecessarily the entire racial hatreds between the Irish and the English... Forgery, it seems , was always available to the Vatican when it came to reale politic.

[afeeder]

@sbreathnach100

What are you talking about? It was created by Rachkovsky of the Russian secret service, not a religious order. And the communists continued to spread it once they took over in order to could blame Jews for Bolshovikism, so it clearly appeals to atheists as well.

[realdeal2449]

Contrary to commonly held belief, Pius XII fought stridently to save the Jews of Europe from the gas chambers of Nazi Germany. Moreover, his courageous efforts were universally recognized until the mid 1960s... until liberal Catholics began to spread lies about his actions.

[sbreathnach100]

And if we follow it through from WW11 to the Chruch's politics in America, Korea, South America, Vietnam, Rwanda, East Timor and around the modern world, we get the same result -- with a John Cornwell in every country agonising over some dead Pope or other. The Wolf is at everybody's door; but no one believes him when he growls. The Albert Speir personality was always a part of the Papacy: you can make anyone -- even yourself -- believe anything,

[sbreathnach100]

The trouble with John Cornwell's analysis -- great and courageous as far as it goes-- is that it personalises the entire systematic conduct of the Papacy (and the Curia and the Catholic Church) over the centuries. What he is discussing vis-a-vis Hitler, he might as well have said about Constantine, the Bysantines, the Lombards, the Francs, the Normans, the French in Italy, the Italians in Abysinnia,etc..The succession the Christeros, Franco, Mussolini, Hitler, Pavalic, Salazar, etc are the One .

[sbreathnach100]

When I first read 'The Elders of Sion" I knew immediately that the only people who could perpetrate such a forgery were those who were in religious orders... As a singular document it had even worse consequences than the Papal forgery of the 'Donation of Constantine' (as it affected Europe for centuries) and the furthe forgeryof Laudabiliter (as it donated the Irish, lock, stock and pigsty to the King of England). Unfortunately, the Irish still blame the British rather than their own priests...