Surplus - Terrorized into Being Consumers (6of10)

With subtitles in English.

Category:

Entertainment

Tags:

• cuba
• castro
• industrialism
• workerism
• economy
• socialism
• bodega
• perla
• rice
• beans
• capitalism
• consumerism
• mcdonalds

[impalapez]

Why can't I walk down the street free of suggestion???? ---Fugazi...fuck bilboards

[tristanXIV]

no one is forcing you to see this film, but try to escape advertising, some people even wear the ads like human billboards.

[naana555]

rise and beans :D me too:)

[tonyfalca]

@boumar19721972 That's the problem. Any form of government, even communism, provides opportunity for corruption. A transition straight to anarchy from our current political state seems impossible. The more I think about it, the more I think our world would need to transition through communism first, but we'd need a leader like Fidel and I just don't see that hapennings..hmm

[boumar19721972]

@roserh6 /watch?v=zr7jKt7fWLU

[roserh6]

@boumar19721972 Neither Russia nor Cuba were ever "communist", they are bourgeois states. The materialist conception of history says that history is not made by great men/women, but it is made by the continuous saga of humans carving out our material existence in nature. Your idealist conception of humanity is at the root of almost all forms of prejudice including racism, xenophobia, sexism, etc. Jacques Fresco is a bourgeois utopian socialist and his ideas are anything but new or innovative.

[boumar19721972]

@roserh6 Jacques Fresco just want us to run the planet like a responsible would run his household vs a person that lived in a pig sty and would live month to month and over eat and trash the place with countless parties. It's like communism, why didn't it work in Russia but it works in Cuba? The difference is who the people in charge are. Russians had a crazed maniac that killed everybody vs Castro give everything he can to his people.All system were ideas before they became material.

[roserh6]

@boumar19721972 Oh boy, can't believe I'm getting into this. Yes I have seen the documentaries. If all you can say is "you just haven't seen the documentaries", that tells me you really have nothing to say. Btw it is YOU who is just "emulating answers from someone else's views". Also, you don't seem to understand what I mean when I call you a utopian. I'm not saying you "advocate a utopia". I'm saying you are basing your postion on an idealist as opposed to a materialist worldview. Forget it.

[boumar19721972]

@roserh6 The Venus Project and the Zeitgeist Movement never advocates a Utopia, period! People who've seen the Zeitgeist documentaries have seen this.

[boumar19721972]

@roserh6 "You" aren't getting it. You haven't seen the documentaries and are just emulating answers from someone else's views!

[roserh6]

@boumar19721972 You really aren't getting it. I couldn't agree with you more that a moneyless society is desirable. However, like all utopian socialists dating back to the 18th century, your version of history is not rooted in a materialist class analysis and therefore your solution, a "resource based economy", lacks any foundation apart from mere bourgeois idealism. The comment "take away labor and spend more time with family" is a perfect example of this.