Priests and preachers entering Islam ( 2 of 2 )

Years ago, when Sheikh Yusuf Estes was a christian minister , he attempted to convert a Muslim. In return, the brother offered him, "If I'm ready to go to your religion if you have something better than what I have, are you ready to come to my religion if I have something better than what you have...?"

Sheikh Estes communicates in this lecture, which takes place in India, how it is that Islamic Character is the best kind of daw'ah. Learn here about this form of da'wah they recieved from this brother that brought Brother Estes, his wife, father and a Catholic Priest to Islam.

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[machangsedap]

Allah Akhbar, Yusof I like your dakwah, it give peaceful feeling inside my soul just by listning to your nice words. Subhanallah . You just tell the people how Allah is as how He decribe it in the Alquran.

[nano614]

Laa Illaha IllAllah Muhammed RusoolAllah..Islam is the fastest growing religion and alhamdullah that i was born muslim..alhamdullah that i am muslim...Islam is the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) I LOVE ISLAM

[5678567856]

@alazghari

True, but, in taking him SECRETLY, and telling Christians to stand firm upon something Muslims say is corrupted due to it saying Jesus went to the cross, is making Allah look like a creepy, damning liar.

[alazghari]

@MegaBoxer77 and do you call that making something looks like what it is not? God says about this that the Jews were planning to kill Jesus, and they thought they are gona make fun of God by killing another prophet as they did before. So, as punishment for them for not getting their Goal by Killing Jesus he saved him bye raising him to the heavens. a man who is a planner/schemer = a deceive. BUT God who is a planner/schemer = a punisher for the deceivers by making their plans False.

[MegaBoxer77]

@alazghari

Didn't Allah have the power to create the universe in eight or six days by saying "be"? And, doesn't the Qur'an say Allah is the "best of planners/schemers"? In otherwords, when it was only made to APPEAR that Jesus went to the cross (when the Qur'an says Jesus didn't), well, wasn't Allah planning that AND only making it appear when he, instead, secretly took Jesus up to be with Allah in Heaven?

[alazghari]

@MegaBoxer77 what do you mean by that? that's totally wrong! Either way he is lying. Lying doesn't mean only to speak untrue words, but manipulate actions so they look like they are not what they are. that's also lying my friend. God almighty never do this "Humanly Behaviors". This is the first time I see someone judging God. What are you trying to say from all this? I mean what's the general pont you wanna make in here?

[MegaBoxer77]

@alazghari

Allah can't lie, but can make it APPEAR that something is true, when it's not, true?

[alazghari]

@MegaBoxer77 Yeah Of course. God cannot Lie. He forgives all those sins on the condition that the person MUST repent to him! But if the person died unrepented, that's another issue.

[MegaBoxer77]

@alazghari

So, Allah is not lying when saying he forgives all sins, even the unforgiveable/unpardonable sin, true?

[alazghari]

@MegaBoxer77 dude, they both are forgivable, the end of the verse says "except for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them Allah will replace their evil deeds with good". so why you take only one part of it!. also see 39:59 "Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah . Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful.""

[MegaBoxer77]

@alazghari

EXCEPT if it's partnering, then it's NOT to be forgiven, true? But, it's interesting that killing for no apparent reason is equal with partnering, which makes me think it's not forgiveable LIKE partnering.

[alazghari]

@MegaBoxer77 Killing an innocent for no apparent reason is an act God has forbidden to be done. However, he always reminds that those who repent can have forgiveness. No matter what their deeds are. God is showing he is merciful but when people recognize, regret, and cry for forgiveness. So, have I given you an answer for your question yet or not?

[MegaBoxer77]

@alazghari

Looks like killing a soul which Allah has forbidden to be killed is equal with the damning powers of partnering with Allah. In otherwords, killing someone Allah forbids killing is ALSO unpardonable.

[MegaBoxer77]

@alazghari

So, the "clear signs" can only be clear by going to, say, the Hadith? Which Hadith do you recommend for that?

[alazghari]

@SalahAlsunaidi that's exactly what I said my Brother. that's the meaning of Repentance or "coming back to God". since we are here talking from the Islamic point of view. So, Repentance means also conversion. In fact any person who is a convert to Islam is called "Repentencer" if the spelling is correct or as the turning to God in repentance. I think we just miss-confused each-other.

[alazghari]

@MegaBoxer77 No, what I mean is that the verses and surats of the Quran weren't revealed at once to Mohammed PBUH. therefore, there is an authentic book of references that muslims themselves should consult before they can explain the verses of Quran in their own ways. this book contains references for each verse like the place and time it was revealed and how the prophet explained it. It's maybe like saying checking up in Encyclopedia Biblica for explanations of the Bible. peace.

[alazghari]

@MegaBoxer77 Here is another verse my brother: 25:68,69,70: "And those who do not invoke with Allah another deity or kill the soul which Allah has forbidden to be killed (..) Multiplied for him is the punishment on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein humiliated, Except for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them Allah will replace their evil deeds with good. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.". I hope that answers your question. peace.

[SalahAlsunaidi]

@MegaBoxer77 it is not like that , u have misunderstanding

Islam removes anything was before,,,, like Shirk "partnering with Allah" .>>>> means Allah will forgive the person who made Shirk", "partnering with Allah" once he or she becomes a Muslim

والله اعلم

[MegaBoxer77]

@alazghari

Where does it say in the Qur'an that it's only unforgiveable to partner with Allah if you KNOW you are doing it?

[alazghari]

@MegaBoxer77 Look, there are two kinds of those who partner with God. Those who do it without knowing, and those who do it with knowing. now for those who do it without knowing, and once they know they came back to God, they get forgiveness. But Those who know and don't want to come to god, they take the consequences of punishment. Now God cannot deal with them with the same way, because then he wont be Just! right! how come he punishes them while they got no knowldge of him!

[MegaBoxer77]

@alazghari

UnLESS they "partner with Allah", true?

[MegaBoxer77]

@alazghari

Sounds like you are saying the "clear signs handed down" aren't so clear.

[alazghari]

@MegaBoxer77 you can't quote a verse from the Quran and say that's what the Quran says! you must quote all the verses that deals with the same subject you are looking for. Because the Quran was not revealed as one unit, it was revealed during many years. and the verses didn't come in order, the Arch Angel Gabriel PBUH always told Mohamed PBUH where to put the verses after each revelation. you must understand this things before you miss interpret the Quran.

[alazghari]

@MegaBoxer77 and what is the problem here? they will be punished by God for doing so! BUT, they always have the chance to correct their faith before it is too late. The Quranic verses do not go individually one by one, each verse clarifies a previous one, or adds more info to it. The punishment of disbelievers is Hell. But always if they regret that and go back to the right path they get forgiveness. we take all the verses together before having the final view! and that's very logicall I guess!