A thought provoking collection of Creative Quotations from H. G. Wells (1866-1946); born on Sep 21. English writer; He in renown for his science-fiction and imaginative social philosophy, e.g., "Time Machine," 1895.
manipulator. trickster. a man so eager to impose a different reality for himself that he had others fooled too. not many people are "good" all the "time", but this guy helped me realize how naive minds should be protected for sure. i could see through the documentary where others fed off this mans own power struggles, and then used it to hurt others. some over achievers are just "off" for they are guided by appetites that are not peaceful minded or heartfelt at all.
Yes, Shaw even gave them ideas, when calling for a 'painless gas' to kill off the 'unfit'. Zyklon B.
Trotsky? Well, he was the mastermind behind the Red Terror campaigns in villages, where the Bolsheviks would single out random people and torture and execute them as examples for the rest. He was also one of the masterminds behind the great Russian 'agricultural revolution', which actually killed millions of people. He wasn't a nice man, no. But they do paint him as such.
@dds31991 Btw, if you read some of his fiction, there's a work of fiction by him which gives a very big glimpse of his views, and agenda: The Shape of Things to Come.
There he gives you the whole notion of an internationalist establishment using sciences to wage war on the peoples of the world (including the "less evolved", or "unfit"), to establish a 'new world order', where that establishment would reign absolutely, through technocracy. It's his most interesting fictional book, for me.
What seems, is often not. Wells agreed with Trotsky on the objective of world revolution, run by an internationalist establishment. He also liked the Nazis (and said so himself, several times) but it's quite possible they didn't like him and the Fabians, since they believed in world dominance by a national people, not a group of internationalists. But I don't know much of the Nazis' views of the Fabians, just the Fabians' liking for the Nazis.
Yes, but having been accepted into an aristo house (I think the Huxley's), Wells thought himself superior to his natural born peers. He'd do anything to remain up there, with the establishment. Bertrand Russell went into that in one of his books...I think it was his autobiography.
No, it's pointless because really, we could discuss this forever, but it still wouldn't make a difference: you have to read his political material for yourself.
Yes, he wanted to sterilize those he saw as the 'unfit': the poor, the un-wealthy middle classes, the disabled, the mentally impaired, the criminals (in his parlance, anyone who would be against the system) and all of those who wouldn't be able to 'adapt' into his utopia system. Those included the Australian Aborigenes, for instance, among several other native peoples.
But really, this conversation is pointless. It was a pleasure but, please, read his books, go into his lectures.
As I said, please read his real books (not just his fiction), as well as Russell's real books (The Impact of Science on Society, The Scientific Outlook).
By the way, he states that thing about mass sterilizing the population in "A Modern Utopia", once again. Everyone that isn't "important" to the state, in his utopia, is to be sterilized, to prevent them spreading their 'bad lineage', according to him. All in line with social darwinism, which these people advocated.
Really pal, read his books yourself. And then, read a good sample of the rest of the Fabian authors, and study the history of their supposedly 'middle-of-the-road', incremental, socialism, and how it spread throughout the world. Study the foundations, parties, international organizations, corporations, NGOs, they created, in league with big banking.
By the end of it, you might have a clearer picture of what it all comes down to.
No, it was you who put an emphasis on that particular book. I mentioned a few others, besides that one. And, despite all your attempts at a spin, no it's not a novel. It's a political work in a semi-novelesque format. Of course it's not THE manifesto (your word too); it's A manifesto, such as 'Anticipations', 'New World Order' or 'The Open Conspiracy'.
A totalitarian manifesto.
If you haven't read it in its entirety, please do so. You might learn a thing or two about your hero.
manipulator. trickster. a man so eager to impose a different reality for himself that he had others fooled too. not many people are "good" all the "time", but this guy helped me realize how naive minds should be protected for sure. i could see through the documentary where others fed off this mans own power struggles, and then used it to hurt others. some over achievers are just "off" for they are guided by appetites that are not peaceful minded or heartfelt at all.
jaimielilly 1 year ago
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i guess its true.....What was willis talking 'bout ?
blank21121 1 year ago
@TheLibertyChannel
Yes, Shaw even gave them ideas, when calling for a 'painless gas' to kill off the 'unfit'. Zyklon B.
Trotsky? Well, he was the mastermind behind the Red Terror campaigns in villages, where the Bolsheviks would single out random people and torture and execute them as examples for the rest. He was also one of the masterminds behind the great Russian 'agricultural revolution', which actually killed millions of people. He wasn't a nice man, no. But they do paint him as such.
TheLibertyChannel 1 year ago
@dds31991 Btw, if you read some of his fiction, there's a work of fiction by him which gives a very big glimpse of his views, and agenda: The Shape of Things to Come.
There he gives you the whole notion of an internationalist establishment using sciences to wage war on the peoples of the world (including the "less evolved", or "unfit"), to establish a 'new world order', where that establishment would reign absolutely, through technocracy. It's his most interesting fictional book, for me.
TheLibertyChannel 1 year ago
@dds31991
What seems, is often not. Wells agreed with Trotsky on the objective of world revolution, run by an internationalist establishment. He also liked the Nazis (and said so himself, several times) but it's quite possible they didn't like him and the Fabians, since they believed in world dominance by a national people, not a group of internationalists. But I don't know much of the Nazis' views of the Fabians, just the Fabians' liking for the Nazis.
TheLibertyChannel 1 year ago
@dds31991
Yes, but having been accepted into an aristo house (I think the Huxley's), Wells thought himself superior to his natural born peers. He'd do anything to remain up there, with the establishment. Bertrand Russell went into that in one of his books...I think it was his autobiography.
No, it's pointless because really, we could discuss this forever, but it still wouldn't make a difference: you have to read his political material for yourself.
TheLibertyChannel 1 year ago
@dds31991
Yes, he wanted to sterilize those he saw as the 'unfit': the poor, the un-wealthy middle classes, the disabled, the mentally impaired, the criminals (in his parlance, anyone who would be against the system) and all of those who wouldn't be able to 'adapt' into his utopia system. Those included the Australian Aborigenes, for instance, among several other native peoples.
But really, this conversation is pointless. It was a pleasure but, please, read his books, go into his lectures.
TheLibertyChannel 1 year ago
@dds31991
As I said, please read his real books (not just his fiction), as well as Russell's real books (The Impact of Science on Society, The Scientific Outlook).
By the way, he states that thing about mass sterilizing the population in "A Modern Utopia", once again. Everyone that isn't "important" to the state, in his utopia, is to be sterilized, to prevent them spreading their 'bad lineage', according to him. All in line with social darwinism, which these people advocated.
TheLibertyChannel 1 year ago
@dds31991
Really pal, read his books yourself. And then, read a good sample of the rest of the Fabian authors, and study the history of their supposedly 'middle-of-the-road', incremental, socialism, and how it spread throughout the world. Study the foundations, parties, international organizations, corporations, NGOs, they created, in league with big banking.
By the end of it, you might have a clearer picture of what it all comes down to.
TheLibertyChannel 1 year ago
@dds31991
No, it was you who put an emphasis on that particular book. I mentioned a few others, besides that one. And, despite all your attempts at a spin, no it's not a novel. It's a political work in a semi-novelesque format. Of course it's not THE manifesto (your word too); it's A manifesto, such as 'Anticipations', 'New World Order' or 'The Open Conspiracy'.
A totalitarian manifesto.
If you haven't read it in its entirety, please do so. You might learn a thing or two about your hero.
TheLibertyChannel 1 year ago