Robert McKee - Example of bad screenwriting - Star Wars Episode III Revenge Of The Sith

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Robert McKee - Example of bad screenwriting - Star Wars Episode III Revenge Of The Sith

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[RJPermenter]

I think you're missing the point. Take this scene and place it in some cafe in Coruscant? Now that would make for a much better scene even with the crappy dialog. If the scene is about what the scene is about, then your in deep s**t. Think on it and watch the video again.

[Fapsamup]

@RJPermenter It doesn't matter where you place the scene, the scene remains about what the scene is about. It is what they DO within the scene that would change the whole thing, not what they say. Those people are in love right? Let them show us they are in love! Simple things like touching, kissing, doing stuff for each other, working as a team. They don't seem to need each other. Their love feels sterile and cold. They are just like two ice cones staring at each other and vomiting dialogue.

[loogenhausen]

"You're so beautiful." (this is fine)

"It's only because I'm so in love." (what?)

"No, it's because I'm so in love with you" (ummm...)

"So love has blinded you." (what's that have to do with...)

"Well that's not exactly what I meant." (I meant you look hot you dumb bitch)

Que?

That exchange makes no sense whatsoever. Crapola.

[ThePhantom135]

The best Star Wars movies are the ones where Lucas isn't in charge.

[rmr355]

Lucas had a crew of people with the first three films to feed off of and to filter out bad ideas. The prequel trilogy was ALL Lucas and every one treated him like the all mighty and no one had the balls to say what did and didn't work.

Which trilogy do you like better?

[jackster1212]

@fleagle66 Ditto... the whole theater snickered here, but it was really during the garden scene later... and also when he wakes up having a dream about his mother... that the theater burst into big laughs. Lucas seems like a nice guy and might be a visionary when it comes to effects, but a screenwriter/storyteller he is not. Every script he writes seems like a 90-page Hallmark card.

[MyHirogen]

@flemishguy subtext is needed for confident and honest characters as well, notby words alone would I as an audience believe they are honest and confident characters. To give you an example, Superman in the movie Superman, has more subtext than this crappy scene in star wars.

[fleagle66]

This scene received laughs...LAUGHS...when I saw it in the theater. If you can't even convince your audience that what your conveying in dialogue is real, how in the world can you expect your audience to come along for the ride? At that point, they may as well be watching "The Naked Gun"

[Psitropic]

Not just the script...can't help but notice the cinematography. The whole thing is just an MCU. Really draws you in. Or is this just the genius of Lucas at play?

[flemishguy]

The problem with his comment on subtext is; some characters talk in subtext, some do not. some of the most compelling characters are ones who say actually what they mean and think. They're what's known as confident honest characters. Often times characters that talk in subtext are boring. Now that's not to say subtext is bad, it is certainly good a lot of time, but good dialogue really depends on the character.

[dsnfldgfds]

lol awesome ending

[Halfstar3]

Hahahahahahahaha! LOVE IT.

[toodle171]

This is the most balsy and helpfull advice I have ever gotten. Thank you!