Baldur's Gate II Throne of Bhaal: Killing Amelissan
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i disagree forbjok, i didnt find Amelissan that hard to beat, im not trying to brag or anything but for me the hardest part about her was that you had to fight her three diffrent times and i didnt have that many healing potions when i battled her i ended up beating her the first time with jan, keldorn, and korgan dieing with my dwarfen fighter/cleric, saverok,and edward suriveing to finish her off , but i must agree iranicus cant touch Amelissan and demegorgan is the hardest ever, cuz i beat him
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@TehD00de, and I'd love to read your guide. If you give me a link, I'll go. :P
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@TehD00de, that's very interesting. So that means that if, say, you're a high-level fighter/mage, and you shapechange into an iron golem, your THAC0 will become much worse when you consider the bonuses from weapons and from Strength. That's a really harsh limitation, though with the iron golem's near-immunity to magic and immunity to elemental damage, I can see why the developers decided to do this.
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@KhagarBalugrak Nope. First of all the highest your Strength can ever go is 25, and whatever bonuses you would get from having 24 Strength from being an Iron Golem are the combat bonuses you would use. Bear in mind also that Iron Golem fists don't count as normal weapons.
I have an enormous Sorcerer guide you can read if you want.
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@TehD00de, what I meant to ask is whether the Strength bonuses from the 24 Strength you get when transformed into an iron golem apply. If you get the +6 bonus to his from 24 Strength when shapechanged into an iron golem, that would mean your base THAC0 is actually -3 instead of 3 when you're an iron golem.
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@KhagarBalugrak Just like how most bosses are immune to crowd control spells and Time Stop, and have a strange protection that makes spells below eighth-level fail, I would imagine Harm won't work on her. I'll test it with Aerie in my party or something
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@KhagarBalugrak I actually don't know since I've never beaten Amelissan with a Cleric before, but the good news is that now that I've almost finished writing my Sorcerer's guide, I'm interested in exploring Cleric spells next.
I would imagine, however, that Harm has some interesting rules as far how it works on different creatures is concerned, for instance undead, demigod or boss status creatures.
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@TehD00de, is Melissan immune to harm? If she isn't, that would seem to me to be the best way of defeating her. The Solar intervenes when she falls below 20% of her hit point total.
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@KhagarBalugrak yes, it would make your combat skills worse, since as a creature you do not retain per level bonuses
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@KhagarBalugrak yeah, even if its better not shapechanging, you still get the strength of whatever form you take, so it is worse.



I'd rather fight 10 Amelissans then listen to this music
cetaepsilon 1 year ago 4
That's not even the full battle, just part of it.
And no, Irenicus isn't tougher, he's a complete wuss compared to Amelissan.
In fact, this (the real full battle that is) is probably one of the hardest boss battles in any game ever.
It's so hard it pretty much forces you to use cheese tactics. Or cheat, if you're willing to go that far.
forbjok 2 years ago 4