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Krishnamurti dialogando con David Bohm acerca de el futuro de la humanidad.

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[ilusion40]

Habla de un estado intemporal, sin embargo, hay un espacio, o espacios -mejor dicho-, en la memoria sobre ello; si no, no se hablaría de ese estado afirmando y negando lo que no es.

[Epictetus2008]

abyssquick: I know he is not talking about amnesia...I am saying there is no other way not to be free of conditioning or memories or the past. there is no other instrument other than the brain or thought and that is a response based on the past always. I have seen his videos and read his books. he offers hope, that is an error. there is no way out....the desire to be free or/and unconditioned is a movement away from what is actual.

It is a false teaching and noone has got anything from it.

[abyssquick]

there's a larger context. krishnamurti has talked aobut this to a large extent not apparrent in this particular video, which is but a tiny snippet. he is in no way implying that one become absent of all memories and conditioning literally (as in erased). he and Dr. Bohm have both discussed the apparrent reality that all aspects of thought have a place and function to serve.

[Epictetus2008]

It is impossible to be "aware" without the recognition of thought and memory. If you are aware without the past then you see only dots and colors...there is not beauty since you need knowledge to say something is beautiful. It would be a state of amnesia.

There is nothing to see without memory and knowledge. Period. K is probably self deluded or a fraud.

In his personal life, truth did not operate..

[188scarface]

watching this video is a result of dual confusion!!

[supralee]

happy menas-day after day you are renewing your being through training!peacful means that you train for peace adding day by day peace unto your being.because the main point in k is-without training nothing happens with training you grow.there is no possibiliry change with help of nice words but there is alwayes possibility to use training.training is to be more attentive than you are normally.that is only thing that matters otherwise you are playing with nice words:)

[iaeruo]

its not to say "peaceful and happy," those are words - abstractions - that we fix to some state we would like to experience. as long as we are seeking after "happiness" we will remain "unhappy." thought wishes to get out of it's own program and says that escape is happy, when in reality if it was to be free it couldn't say it was anything at all. it simly is. :P

[supralee]

anyone who can understand the way he speaks and also could do that would live peaceful and happy life:)

[cecilof]

gracias por estas perlas!

[Monuril]

yes, of course