Its refreshing to see people in here that can suffer through the doubts without slamming the gavel down on either side, as the atheists and fundamentalist do. Stage 4 is tougher, but also more joyful.
We have to suffer to get to stage IV. We have to suffer through our doubts and fears. We have to temporarily lose God to become closer to him. Of course we never lost him, we were geting closer to him all the time.
I don't think his delivery is condescending at all, by nature any stage theory of faith is going to attract this accusation, however it is an important and useful truth in my opinion. It may be helpful to consider that God loves a stage 4 person no more than a stage 2 (or 1 or 3).
I thank you for taking the time to put this information out there in you own words. However, although you did your best to not talk down to your audience, your tone was a bit condescending. Not in an obvious way, but rather sounded a bit elitist! Examine your motives for posting the information!
I really like Peck's stage model and think most Christians and Muslims are (at best) in stage 2. Unfortunately many stay there based on the guilt involved in further examining the nature of things and, well, truth.
A spiritual adviser of Scott Peck pointed out quite correctly that stage 4 which he was discussing is just the start
Raymondlees26 2 weeks ago
@Raffzeee Yes, it is a scary process to go through.
auntstacey123 9 months ago
Good theory i guess im a atheistic mystic :P
BlindFaith1985 10 months ago
Its refreshing to see people in here that can suffer through the doubts without slamming the gavel down on either side, as the atheists and fundamentalist do. Stage 4 is tougher, but also more joyful.
mgdontknowist 1 year ago
is there also a book called: not the atheist type, turncoat of a believer? just curious :)
ghossler 1 year ago
I got my best information and therapy from Dr. M. Scott Peck books; The Road Less Traveled etc.
MrKittrider2000 1 year ago
We have to suffer to get to stage IV. We have to suffer through our doubts and fears. We have to temporarily lose God to become closer to him. Of course we never lost him, we were geting closer to him all the time.
Raffzeee 2 years ago
I don't think his delivery is condescending at all, by nature any stage theory of faith is going to attract this accusation, however it is an important and useful truth in my opinion. It may be helpful to consider that God loves a stage 4 person no more than a stage 2 (or 1 or 3).
xauniverse 3 years ago
I thank you for taking the time to put this information out there in you own words. However, although you did your best to not talk down to your audience, your tone was a bit condescending. Not in an obvious way, but rather sounded a bit elitist! Examine your motives for posting the information!
Beyers321 3 years ago
I really like Peck's stage model and think most Christians and Muslims are (at best) in stage 2. Unfortunately many stay there based on the guilt involved in further examining the nature of things and, well, truth.
GYSTCONSULTING 3 years ago