The Fall - Spectre Versus Rector

The Fall Mark E Smith Spectre Versus Rector from the album Dragnet

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• Spectre
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• Rector
• Dragnet

[LondonDada]

You certainly can't tell stories nowadaze.

Too much risk of a subversive undercurrent its nay allowed.

[LondonDada]

A living document.

[StinkiwinkiPoo]

nice one

[vogelmandrie]

The Fall were always far too good for normal pop audience , Mark E. Smith should better belong to avantgarde music environments.

[TheOissin]

Is it Riley or Scanlon thats playing lead on this one?

[easilyremembered11]

LAST PART: And the creativity on display here is impressive yet absent any hint of fussiness or showiness. Its always worth considering the merits of art that is outside of our comfort zone or area of interest and what that artist may be trying to accomplish or contribute to the medium's cannon.

[easilyremembered11]

Just as Television's Marquee Moon showed us one year earlier how in the post-punk era guitar work within rock could still amaze without leaving behind the composition or the groove or the other band members (i.e. "Freebird", Clapton's "Cocain"), Spectre vs Rector delivers a story of epic theme in which the narrative does not overtake the music; nor is it a 'heroic' or self-aggrandizing narrative typical of epic prog-rock FM classics (Hotel California, say).

[easilyremembered11]

(Both art and entertainment are critical for the survival of any culture; I do not mean to imply that either is more important than the other, only that they serve two important yet different purposes.) Sorry for a long-winded post, but point is that I can understand why many will find this piece 'unpleasant' to listen to, but feel strongly that it is *not* arbitrary in its scattering of noise, and not without brilliance and an important message of that time.

[easilyremembered11]

Central difference between a culture w/ high appreciation 4 art, but low appreciation 4 entertainment (French, 4 example, who typically make rotten rock, vid games, comedy, and other "fun") versus culture such as ours, which has a sophisticated understanding of entertainment (arguably most sophisticated in history of world at creating/appreciating entertainment) yet a low understanding of art, which we critique only for its value as 'entertainment' for us personally, as opposed to its new ideas.

[easilyremembered11]

Primativists and garage bands intentionally rebel against such high production values. You may declare an instant distaste for such an aesthetic, but, educationally, it is helpful to understand what is motivating the artist, and make an attempt to understand them and assess the failure or success of their work based on *their* intentions rather than our own expectations.