Shut Up Jack!

I was bored.

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[bawoman]

OMG,I loved this!

HEY SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mar88ia]

@bawoman I don't want you to thank me anymore, I want you to SHUT UP! ;)

[ThorneAstor]

I would like to congratulate Mr. Carlivati for successfully ruining another character I used to like. Good job, Ron. Nornally, it takes a lot of skill to ruin a character but with you, it only takes about five minutes.

Oh, and I can't leave the equally awful Jean Passanette out of this. Because I know she had something to do with this.

[mar88ia]

@ThorneAstor haha I'm the opposite. I hated him before and now I enjoy him! :)

[mar88ia]

@ThorneAstor oh wait, I was talking about Frodd, not Jack. Who were you referring to?

[Dogstar1985]

TSJTodd is SO Peter Manning 2.0 and Jack is Todd 2.0. I was rewatching some of Peter Manning's interactions with RHTodd and it was scary how similar it is the the abusive father/submissive and beaten down dynamic that TSJTodd and Jack have. No wonder the kid's an a-hole. He's steps away from becoming Todd Manning. The real Todd would never want his kid to become him. He was so self-loathing that he would hate that. This could potentially be a very interesting storyline for Jack/RHTodd to play.

[roman61]

This should be TSJ's emmy reel. Daddy Dearest.

[tkrats52]

@BetaArtemis listen maybe the writers are to blame for making jack such as ass but i think that even with the same lines RH would have acted them differently. Some tones, some movements that is a choice by the actor on how to portray the role. I think Jack would have been different I think the scenes with Todd and Jack would be so different if RH had stayed. there is something that he brings that TSJ just doesn't. and i don't know if tsj cared about the character in the same way jmo

[tkrats52]

@BetaArtemis abuse isn't always 24/7. just because parents hang out with their kids laugh and joke around doesn't mean that they are not abusive. a lot of abusers are pretty nice most of the time and then totally flip and then go back to being relatively ok. So the person being abused gets confused because the abuser isn't always mean and vindictive but that doesn't make it ok. on the contrary it makes it more dangerous because you keep hoping and you disregard it. still it's abuse.

[tkrats52]

@RomanticRosebud agreed

[tkrats52]

continued: and for Todd to do that to Marty erased everything he ever learned. every apology he ever made to her, all the changes he went through when powell held him hostage. There is a incredible Todd and Marty scene when he apologizes and tells her that he knows what he did, what he is asking forgiveness for. I can't believe that Todd would sleep with Marty under any circumstances but specially when she was vulnerable and with no memory.

[tkrats52]

@Autumnchild753 i think the Tarty thing is a huge part of Victor not being Todd. i don't know if you've watched the sl from the rape and on but for todd to be with marty is beyond creepy and awful. He was the instigator of a gang rape on her. And after everything they went through to get beyond that. for him to rape her again -because that what it was, because marty would have never slept with him knowingly-made him not todd. hate that they reduced marty to only be a rape victim

[tkrats52]

@BetaArtemis are you seriously using 7 year old Sam as a defense for Victor? I mean really? A lot of abused kids love their parents. OLTL is one of the shows where you can see that. Look at Todd & Peter. Todd loved his dad for a long time even when he was an adult, even after Peter disowned him. I'm not saying that parents shouldn't discipline their kids but aside from all the other stuff look at 1:00-1:13 . You're gonna tell me that's OK? or that that's Todd? The real Todd? no way

[tkrats52]

@BetaArtemis taken out of context? in which context can this be acceptable? it would be like taking Todd punching Tea out of context. Sure the context explained but did not and cannot excsuse it

[Carmaker1]

@BetaArtemis No, he actually first appeared February 22, 2011 and was aged to 10-10-1995 from 10-10-1997 making him 15+. You're one of the few people who was right about CLM's Jack being 13(most thought he was 10). It's messed up how the guy who replaced him actually started work on CLM's 14th birthday on January 4, 2011 and debuted two days prior to his own birthday of February 24th.

[BetaArtemis]

@Autumnchild753 They also SORASed Jack from being 13 to 16 from Jan. 2011 to new teen Jack's first appearance in April 2011, thus taking away much of the character development to make him into a one-note bully while for a few months Victor(TSJ) was in a coma when the recast had happened. One could say they did some re-writing history and messing up timelines as well. Victor may have yelled but he never hit his kids until the writers started having him as fake-Todd.

[Autumnchild753]

@Autumnchild753

#2 When I saw this Vid it looked like Todd/Victor lost his f**kn mind and was out of nowhere being an absolute bastard. Seing how things were being written I didn't put it past the writers to do something like that to Todd(Victor).

Cause look, suddenly he Not Todd, He's Victor?! Some imposter for the last 9 yrs.?! Then there's the Tarty thing, Todd being a suspect for pushing Marty down the stairs...ect.ect. I took all this out of context stuff out of context too!