Infant Baptism and Original Sin part 1

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[horseman528]

No one sins until they come to a knowledge of sin. Adam and Eve ate of the tree of the KNOWLEDGE of good and evil. All people are born with a tendency to sin but it doesn't come into play until they have a knowledge of what sin is. All will sin if they live long enuf to know that they're sinning. God does not hold a baby responsible for something it has no knowledge of. If a baby dies before it comes to an ability to know right and wrong it will go to heaven even if it wasn't baptised.

[Mkvine]

@horseman528

I don't think we disagree too much. In the Catholic Church we make a distinction between personal sin and original sin. Personal sin is that which is done with full knowledge and consent of someone. Original sin is the sinful nature that we inherited from Adam. Everyone is born with a sinful nature.

[horseman528]

@Mkvine You seem like a very knowledgable person. Whats your interpretation of 1 Cor. 7:15. If an unbeliever is married to a christian and the unbeliever leaves the marriage for reasons other than adultry, is the christian free to remarry? There is division in the church I go to over the interpretation of this scripture and I would like to read what you think since you appear to be well studied. Sorry, I know this is off topic.

[Mkvine]

@horseman528

The Church needs to recognize if the marriage is valid. A marriage between a baptized catholic and non catholic can be declared valid. Once the marriage is valid it is indissoluble. If the person decides to leave and marry someone else, they are committing adultery because they are technically still married. One can take the case to the Church to see if the marriage was valid or not, and if not, they can get an annulment. 

[Mkvine]

@horseman528

You can also ask this question or search for similar questions on EWTN.com. Just PM me if you need a link or help.

[kiwichristian2009]

Infant baptism isnt a Biblical practice.they cannot place his/her faith in Christ.cannot make a decision to obey Christ.An infant cannot understand what water baptism symbolizes.The Bible does not record any infants being baptized.I.B is the origin of the sprinkling and pouring methods of baptism-as it is unwise and unsafe to immerse an infant under water.Even the method of infant baptism fails to agree with the Bible.How does pouring/sprinkling picture the death,burial,and resurrection?

[Mkvine]

@kiwichristian2009

Part 7). No: three times Acts 2 states that the Holy Spirit was poured out on them when Pentecost came (2:17, 18, 33). Also, Peter speaks of the Holy Spirit falling upon them in reference to baptism (Acts 11:17-18).

[BoerVanPretoria]

My friend just read the rest of the verse too. Jesus came to give righteousness to ALL men. So does that then mean no one need to believe, we all are saved automatically??? No we still need to believe in Christ. Rom 5:18 Therefore as by the offenceof onejudgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

[Mkvine]

@kiwichristian2009

Part 6). Does that mean that Jesus had to immerse himself before eating? In Acts 1:4–5 Jesus charged his disciples "not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise of the Father, which, he said, ‘you heard from me, for John baptized with water, but before many days you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’" Did this mean they would be "immersed" in the Spirit?

[Mkvine]

@kiwichristian2009

Part 5). In regards to baptism by immersion, Catholics do allow for that. In fact, it is a common practice of the eastern Catholic churches. It is true that the Greek word baptizo found in the New Testament means "to immerse,” however, that is not its only meaning. Sometimes it just means washing up. Thus Luke 11:38 reports that, when Jesus ate at a Pharisee’s house, "the Pharisee was astonished to see that he did not first wash [baptizo] before dinner."

[Mkvine]

@kiwichristian2009

Part 4). Finally, Jesus himself said "Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven" (Mat 19:14). It seems to me that you are the one who is hindering the little children from coming to Christ.