A response to Richard Dawkins by Adam Deen - Ireland DCU 19th October 2009

http://www.adamdeen.com Adam Deen is an international public speaker on Muslim Apologetics. A former Islam channel presenter and intellectual activist who has been working in the field of Muslim apologetics for almost a decade. He has contributed to debates on issues ranging from ethics, to religious philosophy and theology. Adam Deen his part of a movement that uses contemporary western philosophy to defend Islam in public debates. He also debated USA's leading atheist Dan Barker author of 'Godless'.

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[saintpine]

A good video with finally some new views.

watch?v=mbMcHExf6X4

[saintpine]

We don't have books "the unicorns delusion", because there is no one so deluded.

But we do have tons of mythological books even though there is no one believing them anymore.

Don't worry Mr Deen, even when religion becomes a myth, your Koran will still remain even if no one believes it anymore, it will only move from the religion section to the mythological section.

[sum1unxpected]

his first argument is quite dumb.

"if gods non-existenece is so self-evident then why does Dawkins need 400 pages to show this?"

Dawkins wasn't trying to prove that god doesn't exist. he was debunking common arguments for his existence.

why do so many evangelists insist on calling themselves philosophers? they just give philosophy a bad name.

[StopSpamming1]

Faith is required because there is no proof and not even evidence. If a god were a fact, faith would not be required. Instead, theists find "good arguments" for the probability of the existence of a god.

Does Deen try to copy Craig? Many parallels.

Science has no opinion on any god. And does not care.

Why don't people learn that objective morality can not and does not exist?

Why don't people learn that shooting holes into science does not automatically prove the existence of a god?

[BooR1N9]

At 5:15 he quotes Dawkings. I haven't read the book but i think he is saying the believe is passed on by your parents and the culture you live in ?! I get the feeling this guy would happely take anything out of context or twist it if it justifies his beliefs by 'proving' Dawkings wrong. I got this suspicion early on when he pointed out there is 1 atheïst who didn't agree. I dare this guy to go into a debate with Dawking. I dare you, i double dare you M****r F****r

[rictusgate]

Right off the getgo Mr. Deen shows that he doesn't even understand the fundamental dispute athiests/etc. has against faith/religion. There are no a-unicorn books - because there are no people pushing a dogma or worldview based on unicorns. But people are doing that in the name of god and religion - which a disproportionate number of humans suffer with an actual belief in it. To me, he might as well be writing about unicorns - both are just as real.But religion causes suffering and strife.

[mechnar9]

The point is not the we should eliminate metaphysics a'la positivism, but rather produce descriptive metaphysics that are coherent with what we hold to be epistemological certain in accordance with parsimony. God does not meet these requirements.

[TheEpicion]

@moey78612

Depends on which aspect you mean.

[moey78612]

@TheEpicion u have not studied science before.

[rockyraccoon]

To say that the existence of a book like this demonstrates a problem for atheists is ludicrous. History is riddled with cases of mass delusion where books, just like this one, changed general opinion and drastically moved our understanding of the world around us in another direction entirely.